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Re: Thoughts on 2018 Leaf

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 12:08 pm
by LeftieBiker
There are already several topics on this. How about using one of those? This topic is already 'damaged' by one person "assuming" that Leaf 2 will be $7-10k more, when Nissan is going to try for the same MSRP as now.

Re: Thoughts on 2018 Leaf

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 3:21 pm
by SageBrush
powersurge wrote:Tesla is, in comparison, a microbrewery in the car field. They will never have the cash to roll our any significant number of cars, especially at that low price.... IMVeryHO, Tesla is all hype, and the marketing of a new Tesla (for $35K) is like being told that you can buy a Lambo for the price of a Cadillac...

If you have to be wrong, at least you play humble.

The problem is that you are not humble. A modest person would have put down a $1000 reservation so that they could own the car if Tesla lives up to its promises in return for a $30 gamble of lost bank interest if Tesla disappoints. So instead you get to live a self-fulfilling prophecy wherein you miss out for sure because you are at the back of the line.

Re: Thoughts on 2018 Leaf

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 3:28 pm
by SageBrush
martik777 wrote:Is anyone holding off acquiring a Leaf in anticipation of the 60kwh 2018 model?

Tesla Model 3.

I doubt the LEAF-2 will be 60 kwh, will likely be less car and poorer value than the upcoming Tesla, and most certainly will not have the Supercharger network. Since I have to own at least one car that can travel long distance the 200 mile + crappy DCFC alternatives are not on my shopping list.

Re: Thoughts on 2018 Leaf

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:36 pm
by GetOffYourGas
powersurge wrote:Don't hold your breath for the Tesla...


I'm in no rush. I am assuming that Tesla will either produce the Model 3, or go under. I don't see a third option at this point. Whether one will every be sold for $35k is anyone's guess, but I'd still like to test drive whatever is available.

LeftieBiker wrote:There are already several topics on this. How about using one of those?


This thread is about thoughts on a 2018 Leaf. Considering its alternatives / competitors is not off topic.

LeftieBiker wrote:This topic is already 'damaged' by one person "assuming" that Leaf 2 will be $7-10k more, when Nissan is going to try for the same MSRP as now.


I'm sorry, but MSRP is $7-10k more than you can buy a 2017 Leaf for today. Have you seen the discounts Nissan is offering? That's above and beyong the tax credit. Heck, I got $5k off MSRP on my 2012 in addition to the $7500 tax credit.

Re: Thoughts on 2018 Leaf

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:56 pm
by LeftieBiker
LeftieBiker wrote:
There are already several topics on this. How about using one of those?



This thread is about thoughts on a 2018 Leaf. Considering its alternatives / competitors is not off topic.



I'm not complaining that it's off-topic. I'm complaining that it's another duplicative (?) topic about the Leaf 2. I do concede your point on the $7-10 more. I read that as the MSRP being that much higher, but that isn't what was actually written. Anyway, I'm going to stay with one of the two or so topics already in use.

Re: Thoughts on 2018 Leaf

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 10:30 pm
by cwerdna
LeftieBiker wrote:There are already several topics on this. How about using one of those? This topic is already 'damaged' by one person "assuming" that Leaf 2 will be $7-10k more, when Nissan is going to try for the same MSRP as now.

I agree w/all of the above.

Mods: Please merge this with one of the existing threads. We don't need another.

Re: Thoughts on 2018 Leaf

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:13 am
by DaveinOlyWA
martik777 wrote:Is anyone holding off acquiring a Leaf in anticipation of the 60kwh 2018 model?

Assuming it will cost 7-10k more, I don't know if it is worth it. If your daily mileage is within the 24/30kwh range why lug around that extra weight. I guess it relieves some range anxiety and is a good buffer against battery degradation.


that would put the cost into the mid to high 20's. Well worth it, I think

Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 10:45 am
by Foschas
Sign up for 2018 Leaf updates here

https://www.nissanusa.com/electric-cars/2018-leaf/

Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 12:53 pm
by LeftieBiker
Also, he mentions that the new Leaf is a completely new design. There is no carryover from the current generation.


Frankly, I don't believe that, and actually hope it isn't true. If I decide to order a Leaf 2 without driving one, it will have to use the existing car as the basis for the redesign. If it really is all new, I'll probably lease a Bolt - which by then should be ironed out. Someone else can beta test the all-new Leaf.

Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 1:12 pm
by NavyCuda
LeftieBiker wrote:
Also, he mentions that the new Leaf is a completely new design. There is no carryover from the current generation.


Frankly, I don't believe that, and actually hope it isn't true. If I decide to order a Leaf 2 without driving one, it will have to use the existing car as the basis for the redesign. If it really is all new, I'll probably lease a Bolt - which by then should be ironed out. Someone else can beta test the all-new Leaf.


Logic fail.