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evnow
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What is your guess for Gen 2 Leaf ?

Thu May 28, 2015 7:31 pm

Looking at what they are reportedly doing with 2016

S - 24 kWh
SV - 30 kWh
SL - 30 kWh

my guess for Gen 2 (MY2017) is

S - 30 kWh
SV - 50 kWh
SL - 60 kWh (or 50 kWh)

I'm also wondering whether the battery physical size for Gen 2 will be the same as Gen 1.
1st Leaf : 2/28/2011 to 5/6/2013
2nd Leaf : 5/4/2013 to 3/21/2017
Volt : 3/25/2017 to ?

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Re: What is your guess for Gen 2 Leaf ?

Thu May 28, 2015 7:37 pm

I'm gonna go with 36/48/60 for the three battery sizes, but 36/48/48 wouldn't surprise me either.
2012 LEAF SL in Cayenne Red
40 mile R/T commute in Chicagoland
Leaf Spy Lite (June 2015, 22513 miles): AHr = 56.86, SOH = 86%, 393.13V, Hx = 73.55%, 924 L1/L2s, min/avg/max = 4.080 4.097 4.109 (29mV)

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Re: What is your guess for Gen 2 Leaf ?

Thu May 28, 2015 7:41 pm

I'm going to guess 30/50/50.
Former Ride: 2012 Leaf SL, Ocean Blue, Leased 1/27/2012, Returned 4/27/2015, 37.7k miles & 12/12 bars
Final LeafSpy readings: AHr 60.73, SOH 92%, Hx 90.90%, 250 Gids on full charge

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Re: What is your guess for Gen 2 Leaf ?

Thu May 28, 2015 8:09 pm

I'm going with:

30
30 / Optional 60
30 / Optional 60
2011 Brilliant Silver SL - 105,000 gasoline free miles so far.
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4BLx2:12/31/16 @ 69 months, 99,475 miles, 42.99 Ahr.

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Re: What is your guess for Gen 2 Leaf ?

Thu May 28, 2015 8:20 pm

Infiniti LE is a go

S - 30 kWh
SV - 48 kWh
SL - 48 kWh


Infiniti LE is cancelled/delayed a few more years.

S - 30 kWh
SV - 48 kWh
SL - 60 kWh

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Re: What is your guess for Gen 2 Leaf ?

Thu May 28, 2015 8:45 pm

I'd be amazed if the SV and SL had different capacities. Not so much if they both came with the 30KWH battery as standard equipment, with a larger size optional for both.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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Re: What is your guess for Gen 2 Leaf ?

Thu May 28, 2015 9:53 pm

Before the announcement I'd have thought they would make larger battery optional - but looks like they'll tie battery sizes to models/trims.
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Re: What is your guess for Gen 2 Leaf ?

Thu May 28, 2015 9:56 pm

Nissan said double the range, so I'll double the battery pack size to 48 for 2017. I suspect there still will be a low end option, don't know if that is 24 or 30.
I think it will be 2018 before they reach 200+ mile range. They don't need to compete with $37.5K bolt initially. Leaf is a bigger car.

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Re: What is your guess for Gen 2 Leaf ?

Fri May 29, 2015 4:11 am

S 24 kWh $26.9k
SV 36 kWh $30.9k
SL 48 kWh $34.9k

6.6 kW charger and QC standard on S and SV, 10 kW charger and QC on SL, optional on SV.

Nissan installs 100kW QCs near all Tesla locations. Pigs learn to fly.
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'12 SL last reading @ 2 yr, 22k, 260 GIDs, 62.35 Ahr

'15 SV w/QC, Mfd 5/14, Leased 8/14, 292 GIDs, 64.38 Ahr when new

@ 25 months, 25k, 267 GID, 56.88 AHr
@ 36 months, 34k, 270 GID, 57.49 AHr


6.72 kW Array

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Re: What is your guess for Gen 2 Leaf ?

Fri May 29, 2015 5:50 am

LEAF vs Prius equiv.

LEAF Gen 1 gets renamed LEAF Select or something else to distinguish it from Gen 2
LEAF Select 24kWh (Prius C) CARB special
LEAF Select 30kWh (Prius C)

LEAF Gen 2 appears similar to a Leaf Gen 1, but styled much attractively
LEAF Gen 2 is actually on a different platform to LEAF Gen 1, increased wheelbase, premium feel
LEAF Gen 2 36kWh restricted supply, 1 per dealer
LEAF Gen 2 45kWh (Prius / Mirai)

eNV200 24-45kWh delivery van, 2 seater
eNV200 24-30kWH (Prius V) 5 seater
eNV200 24-30kWh 7 seater

24 kWh = standard energy cells 2P 96S
30 kWh = higher energy cells 2P 96S
36 kWh = standard energy cells 3P 96S (ie new pack)
45 kWh = higher energy cells 3P 96S (ie new pack)

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