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Re: Leaf 2 coming out in ... 2018 ?

Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:10 am

DarthPuppy wrote:I'm just really concerned that it looks like they may try to do a 6-7 year model run before they bring out Gen2 and make the next major advance. That is a pace that gives the competition too much opportunity to catch up.


Yet that is exactly what I expect them to do. The first Leaf was a MY2011. 2011-2017 is a 7 year model run. Others predict that the MY2017 will be gen 2 - that would be a 6 year model run. So Nissan is doing exactly that - a 6-7 year model run of the first-gen Leaf. And I don't think they are squandering their lead in the process.
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Re: Leaf 2 coming out in ... 2018 ?

Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:55 am

It is disappointing to me that it may take that long for a Leaf 2 to hit the showrooms, but I'm not seeing anybody else on a faster timetable. Sure, we keep hearing about $35K 200-mile-range cars coming out from Tesla and Chevy, and possibly VW, but at this point they are all mythical beasts. Do any of these other manufacturers actually have a firm timetable on when their cars will arrive so I can buy one?

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Re: Leaf 2 coming out in ... 2018 ?

Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:49 pm

ALF wrote:It is disappointing to me that it may take that long for a Leaf 2 to hit the showrooms, but I'm not seeing anybody else on a faster timetable. Sure, we keep hearing about $35K 200-mile-range cars coming out from Tesla and Chevy, and possibly VW, but at this point they are all mythical beasts. Do any of these other manufacturers actually have a firm timetable on when their cars will arrive so I can buy one?


No...but you already knew that, right ;)
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Re: Leaf 2 coming out in ... 2018 ?

Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:35 pm

ALF wrote:they are all mythical beast...
Not Bolt. It has a shown pre-prod model and set timetable of fall of 2016 (say October?).
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Re: Leaf 2 coming out in ... 2018 ?

Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:47 pm

ILETRIC wrote:
ALF wrote:they are all mythical beast...
Not Bolt. It has a shown pre-prod model and set timetable of fall of 2016 (say October?).


I'm prepared to place a bet that I can't buy a Chevy Bolt in Washington State that gets 200 miles in range for $35,000, by the end of 2015.

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Re: Leaf 2 coming out in ... 2018 ?

Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:33 pm

Misread can't as can. Disregard. Delete me.
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Re: Leaf 2 coming out in ... 2018 ?

Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:39 pm

ALF wrote:I'm prepared to place a bet that I can't buy a Chevy Bolt in Washington State that gets 200 miles in range for $35,000, by the end of 2015.

Did you mean to say end of 2016 ? Because, obviously it won't be here this year.

The reports are that manufacturing will start by end of 2016 and the car will be sold in 2017.

BTW, the word is Leaf 2 is still expected in early 2017.
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Re: Leaf 2 coming out in ... 2018 ?

Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:41 pm

Yes, I DID mean to say the end of 2016. Every time I hear about the Bolt, GM is slipping the date another few months. Now they are saying second half of 2016, which I think means that they will make a dozen of them available in California during December 2016.

BTW, I'm not just singling out Chevy; it looks like all of the manufacturers promising the magic $35K-200mi car over-promised on their arrival in showrooms. I'm just annoyed at myself that I initially bought into the hype.

What should be the terms of the bet? A Nissan Leaf Charging Port Lid Cover? http://www.greencarreports.com/news/107 ... in-the-u-s

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Re: Leaf 2 coming out in ... 2018 ?

Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:24 pm

ampitupco wrote:The BMW is expensive and Kia, VW, and GM do not sell a BEV outside of a few select areas. Not sure they can (or want to) scale up and actually sell their EVs. Actually, at this point it's safe to say they don't want to.
This. For those of us who don't live in the handful of markets where those manufacturers sell BEVs, they are pretty much irrelevant. Nissan's advantage is that they already have LEAF-certified dealers in most areas and can sell nationwide.
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Re: Leaf 2 coming out in ... 2018 ?

Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:24 pm

ALF wrote:Yes, I DID mean to say the end of 2016. Every time I hear about the Bolt, GM is slipping the date another few months. Now they are saying second half of 2016, which I think means that they will make a dozen of them available in California during December 2016.

I don't buy that. If anything they are pulling forward ...

What should be the terms of the bet? A Nissan Leaf Charging Port Lid Cover? http://www.greencarreports.com/news/107 ... in-the-u-s

That's not addressed to me, right ?
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