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Re: Infiniti will launch an electric vehicle, according to boss Roland Krueger

Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:22 pm

finman100 wrote:Tesla Right to Repairs? Please elaborate. What is this and why is it "bad" enough to not consider a Tesla EV?


Majority of repair work to be performed by Tesla at its shop rate. Parts probably have to come from the company too.

One is going to be at Tesla's mercy after warranty ends. Could be thousands of dollars to keep the car in drivable condition.

http://electrek.co/2017/01/30/tesla-ope ... ent-parts/

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... 26/page-35

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Re: Infiniti will launch an electric vehicle, according to boss Roland Krueger

Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:31 pm

Infinity is a terrible brand. For those that think Teslas are going to be expensive to repair expect big changes on the the way as a result of the 3 and a new channel of repair and support.

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Re: Infiniti will launch an electric vehicle, according to boss Roland Krueger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:02 am

EVDRIVER wrote:Infinity is a terrible brand. For those that think Teslas are going to be expensive to repair expect big changes on the the way as a result of the 3 and a new channel of repair and support.


Will labor and part costs come down? What about the lack of Right to Repair, how does that help people whose cars no longer have warranty and are required to have Tesla fix each and every issue that may affect driveability at a significant dollar amount?

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Re: Infiniti will launch an electric vehicle, according to boss Roland Krueger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:31 am

EVDRIVER wrote:Infinity is a terrible brand. For those that think Teslas are going to be expensive to repair expect big changes on the the way as a result of the 3 and a new channel of repair and support.


Why does every discussion have to degrade into an OT Tesla discussion?

Re: "Infinity [sic] is a terrible brand" - this is entirely subjective. I'm glad to see them get into the EV business after years of teasing us with the LE, and then cancelling it completely.
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Re: Infiniti will launch an electric vehicle, according to boss Roland Krueger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:34 am

Model S and X parts are expensive because of the way the cars are made and the low production numbers. Model 3 parts will cost much less and service is going to be open up to more independent shops as we ll as owners with more tools available for these parties. There also may be some interesting service bundles in the future with Tesla cars for insurance, etc.

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Re: Infiniti will launch an electric vehicle, according to boss Roland Krueger

Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:42 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote:Infinity is a terrible brand. For those that think Teslas are going to be expensive to repair expect big changes on the the way as a result of the 3 and a new channel of repair and support.


Why does every discussion have to degrade into an OT Tesla discussion?

Re: "Infinity [sic] is a terrible brand" - this is entirely subjective. I'm glad to see them get into the EV business after years of teasing us with the LE, and then cancelling it completely.


It is subjective, and in terms of relative offerings look at the historic choices consumers made. Look at the history of the Infinity brand relative to other "luxury" brands like Lexus. Let's see what they offer and at what quality level and for what price. Nissan in general is really lagging in the EV dept and conversations often lead to Tesla as they prove to lead the market in many aspects. Consider how new of a company Tesla is compared to Nissan and where they are today, they are a recent car start up company. Nissan in general is still bound by a lack of progressive talent and conservative management in the EV space. The New LEAF exemplifies this in so many ways after seven years of the same model.

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Re: Infiniti will launch an electric vehicle, according to boss Roland Krueger

Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:00 pm

Wins the award for least-informative-tease-ever?

On the other hand, the full reveal is only a few weeks out.

Infiniti Teases Its Most Advanced Car Ever

Full reveal set for November 28 at Los Angeles Auto Show.


...there’s a good chance the vehicle in question will be a concept rather than a production model. In addition, it will probably feature an electrified powertrain (hybrid or full EV) and perhaps it’s also going to boast autonomous driving technology as seen in most recent high-tech showcars.

We should point out there’s a rumor about Infiniti’s plan to introduce a sporty EV, but the report mentions it will debut in January 2018 at the Detroit Auto Show, not in L.A. Could this be it? It’s hard to say at this point...

https://www.motor1.com/news/185645/infi ... les-debut/
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Re: Infiniti will launch an electric vehicle, according to boss Roland Krueger

Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:49 am

Wins the award for least-informative-tease-ever?

On the other hand, the full reveal is only a few weeks out.

Infiniti Teases Its Most Advanced Car Ever

Full reveal set for November 28 at Los Angeles Auto Show.


...there’s a good chance the vehicle in question will be a concept rather than a production model. In addition, it will probably feature an electrified powertrain (hybrid or full EV) and perhaps it’s also going to boast autonomous driving technology as seen in most recent high-tech showcars.

We should point out there’s a rumor about Infiniti’s plan to introduce a sporty EV, but the report mentions it will debut in January 2018 at the Detroit Auto Show, not in L.A. Could this be it? It’s hard to say at this point...

https://www.motor1.com/news/185645/infi ... les-debut/

Let's hope the BEV actually appears in January.

Meanwhile, we did get a PP-equipped ICEV with the world's first production-ready variable compression ratio engine:

INFINITI QX50: A luxury crossover with world-first technologies and an all-new platform

NASHVILLE, Tenn. – The new 2019 QX50 is the most compelling INFINITI to date. Based on an entirely new platform, the new QX50 is a mid-size crossover with world-first technologies, standout design and unrivaled interior space.

"The 2019 QX50 is the most important vehicle we have ever launched, and it embodies everything the brand stands for: beautiful design, advanced technology and empowering performance. As a luxury, mid-size crossover, it's the right vehicle at the right time in one of the world's fastest growing segments."

Christian Meunier, INFINITI Global Division Vice President

The VC-Turbo engine is the world's first production-ready variable compression ratio engine, transforming on demand. A breakthrough in combustion engine design, the 2.0-liter VC-Turbo engine adjusts its compression ratio to optimize power and efficiency. It combines the power of a 2.0-liter turbocharged gasoline engine with the torque and efficiency of a four-cylinder diesel engine. A compelling alternative to diesel, it challenges the notion that only hybrid and diesel powertrains can deliver high torque and efficiency.

"Variable compression ratio technology represents a breakthrough in powertrain development. The QX50, powered by our VC-Turbo, is the first production vehicle ever to give drivers an engine that transforms on demand, setting a new benchmark for powertrain capability and refinement.
Randy Parker, Vice President, INFINITI Americas

A multi-link system continuously raises or lowers the pistons' reach to transform the compression ratio. High compression ratios aid efficiency, while low ratios enable greater power and torque. The VC-Turbo offers any compression ratio between 8:1 (for performance) and 14:1 (for efficiency), maximizing driver control.

The engine delivers 268 hp (200 kW) and 280 lb ft (380 Nm), an expected best-in-class combination of four-cylinder power and torque. The 2019 QX50 is expected to deliver fuel economy of 27 mpg (U.S. combined, front-wheel drive; 26 mpg all-wheel drive). Front-wheel-drive models offer a 35% improvement in fuel efficiency over the previous V6 gasoline QX50; all-wheel-drive models offer a 30% improvement.

The engine is paired with a continuously variable transmission (CVT), for seamless power delivery. Its infinite number of ratios perfectly matches the engine's ability to transform.

The 2019 QX50 is built on an all-new platform, featuring a front-engine, front-wheel-drive-based layout. Engineered with flexibility of application in mind, the new platform sets new standards for refinement, rigidity and interior space in the compact luxury crossover segment.

"The crossover market is the number one premium segment globally. The new QX50 is INFINITI's core model and offers premium buyers everything they could want from a vehicle of this type, thanks in part to the development of an all-new platform that is an ideal combination of roominess and packaging efficiency."
François Bancon, Vice President, Product and Programs

The platform's layout allows for higher levels of packaging efficiency than before, resulting in the new QX50's ideal interior proportions for passengers and cargo.

The 2019 QX50 represents the first automotive use of SHF (Super High Formability) 980 MPa high-tensile steel, further strengthening the all-new platform. The high-tensile material can be molded into unprecedented shapes, saving weight and representing a torsional rigidity improvement of 23% over the current QX50.

New ProPILOT Assist technologies support single-lane highway driving
INFINITI's customers have stated their desire to remain a key element in the driving equation, so the brand's vision for driver-assistance technologies is a step removed from the notion of fully autonomous "driverless" motoring embraced by some carmakers.

"INFINITI's ProPILOT Assist technologies offer support when needed and add to the enjoyment and confidence of the driver. Our intention is to empower the driver and enhance feelings of pleasure behind the wheel, not to remove the driver from the equation. The brand new QX50 will set a new benchmark in the biggest premium segment."
François Bancon, Vice President, Product and Programs

In the 2019 QX50, ProPILOT Assist technologies help the driver control acceleration, braking and steering during single-lane highway driving, placing them in total control. ProPILOT Assist is designed to add to driving enjoyment and confidence, and is available at the push of a button...

https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/rele ... w-platform
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Re: Infiniti will launch an electric vehicle, according to boss Roland Krueger

Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:52 am

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EVDRIVER wrote:Infinity is a terrible brand. For those that think Teslas are going to be expensive to repair expect big changes on the the way as a result of the 3 and a new channel of repair and support.


Will labor and part costs come down? What about the lack of Right to Repair, how does that help people whose cars no longer have warranty and are required to have Tesla fix each and every issue that may affect driveability at a significant dollar amount?


Tesla, like all OEMs, have to obey all laws including Right to Repair laws.

Many OEMs that sell unique or rare construction automobiles require shops to have company training and/or company authorized tools in order to fix or repair certain aspects of their cars. And they will only sell certain parts to these certified shops.

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Re: Infiniti will launch an electric vehicle, according to boss Roland Krueger

Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:10 am

edatoakrun wrote:
Wins the award for least-informative-tease-ever?



[b]Infiniti Teases Its Most Advanced Car Ever




Nissan's Carwings telematics was touted as groundbreaking technology, Many years later it's still dated and terrible as the day it was released. "Most advanced" is a very relative term for Nissan. Nissan thinks blending friction brakes with regen is high tech vs using more regen so slow the car to a complete stop. You can take an EV to almost a complete stop without friction blending. It's not like they are trying but they simply are too conservative in product development and too liberal with marketing speak. However, perhaps the pack has active cooling making it groundbreaking.

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