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No details of when or what, but the report is from the highest source:

Infiniti to launch performance EV with Nissan tech by 2020


...Infiniti will launch an electric vehicle in the next three years, according to boss Roland Krueger.

He said he had already driven an early prototype, describing it as "very good".

Krueger added that it was important that an electric vehicle maintained Infiniti's values of performance and handling - a forte of its hybrid offerings, he said. "We want it to have a unique Infiniti driving experience."

While Krueger wouldn't divulge what it's first electric car would be, he admitted it would be a new platform suggesting it will be a standalone model rather than a derivative of an existing model...
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-detroit-motor-show/infiniti-launch-performance-ev-nissan-tech-2020

What I'd like is to see is a competitor in the new BESUV vehicle class, which will be created by Jaguar next year:

Jaguar I-PACE BESUV available 2018
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=22545

And, for the new Infiniti, like the Jag, i'd hope the Sport in SUV is not a joke, as it is for virtually all ICEV Suvs.

Wouldn't mind if the new Infiniti was priced a bit lower than the Jag, either...
 
DanCar said:
This looks like an infiniti:
https://youtu.be/BT4TLcmzBR4?t=9m45s
Announcer says that the concept will be produced in the near future.
But it's a Nissan, and likely the concept preview for the next gen Altima.

edatoakrun said:
The PR release with photos and specs, no mention of drivetrain(s):

Jan 9, 2017
Nissan unveils Vmotion 2.0 at 2017 North American International Auto Show

Nissan Vmotion 2.0 is an exciting new concept for tomorrow’s busy professionals
Created to showcase Nissan’s new sedan design direction – futuristic, dynamic, and more cabin-focused
Showcases the evolution of the signature “V-motion” front design seen on many of today’s Nissan products
Provides hints at the future of “Nissan Intelligent Mobility,” including a future vision for ProPILOT functionality, one which allows autonomous driving on urban roads and in intersections with the latest HMI
DETROIT – Nissan today revealed Vmotion 2.0, a new concept vehicle that signals the company’s future sedan design direction and Intelligent Mobility technology. It combines a high sense of style, emotional design, roominess, comfort and technology to make the mobility experience seamless for busy professionals constantly on the go. The vehicle was revealed during a press conference at the 2017 North American International Auto Show...


Base Dimensions
Overall length 4860 mm (191.3 in)
Overall width (without door mirrors)
1890mm (74.4 in)
Overall height 1380mm (54.3 in)
Wheelbase 2850mm (112.2 in)
http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/channels/us-united-states-nissan/releases/-nissan-unveils-vmotion-2-0-at-2017-north-american-international-auto-show

That's a large sedan.

Only ~4.5" shorter and ~3'' narrower than a Tesla S.
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=23214&p=480642#p480642
 
Sounds like the prototype is ~on schedule.

Good news, that it sounds like Nissan isn't going to try to extend the ancient 2011 LEAF platform any further, beyond the LEAF-based SUV due ~next year.

Wonder if Nissan will launch a larger BEV using this Infiniti platform, in 2019 or later?

Infiniti to reveal electric performance model in January

Design boss Alfonsa Albaisa confirms Infiniti's first electric car will be shown at Detroit motor show;


Infiniti will launch a standalone electric model in 2019, which will be shown in concept form at next year’s Detroit motor show.

Design boss Alfonsa Albaisa confirmed the electric model would not be a derivative of an existing model and would instead be an all-new vehicle...

Albaisa also confirmed the electric car would be on a new platform, rather than sharing a platform with the Nissan Leaf, its parent company’s electric offering.

Earlier this year, Infiniti boss Roland Krueger told Autocar an electric model was coming and that he had already driven an early prototype...
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-detroit-motor-show/infiniti-reveal-electric-performance-model-january
 
Interesting. If this can go 250 miles, had four doors and could comfortably seat four adults, this may be my next car (which is going to be a BEV). Pay a bit more to avoid Tesla's business model that lacks the Right to Repairs.


I don't mind two doors if that is the only constraint (and the lack of SCN, that I'm not too worried about if this can go 250 miles between charging):
http://www.infiniti.ca/en/future-vehicles/emerg-e.html

Looking at the images, it seems it will be a two-seater. :(
 
internalaudit said:
...
http://www.infiniti.ca/en/future-vehicles/emerg-e.html

Looking at the images, it seems it will be a two-seater. :(
That's a concept from way back in 2012:

...The Infiniti Emerg-E is a concept sports car developed by the Infiniti division of Nissan Motors and was unveiled to the public at the 2012 Geneva Motor Show...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infiniti_Emerg-e

Far more likely, IMO, to be in the Audi/Jaguar/Tesla Y (?) BEV class, five-door five-seat crossovers.
 
Will this be a real infiniti or a rebadged leaf, like when lexus put a plate on the prius? It won't be easy selling an EV at the Tesla price point, though I am sure there are some people who will never buy a tesla if there isn't a dealership near by.
 
edatoakrun said:
internalaudit said:
...
http://www.infiniti.ca/en/future-vehicles/emerg-e.html

Looking at the images, it seems it will be a two-seater. :(
That's a concept from way back in 2012:

...The Infiniti Emerg-E is a concept sports car developed by the Infiniti division of Nissan Motors and was unveiled to the public at the 2012 Geneva Motor Show...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infiniti_Emerg-e

Far more likely, IMO, to be in the Audi/Jaguar/Tesla Y (?) BEV class, five-door five-seat crossovers.

Yeah, I noticed it won the concept award in 2012.

Even better with a BEV so I can sell our damn RAV4 Hybrid and stick with two vehicles instead of three. :)
 
finman100 said:
Tesla Right to Repairs? Please elaborate. What is this and why is it "bad" enough to not consider a Tesla EV?

Majority of repair work to be performed by Tesla at its shop rate. Parts probably have to come from the company too.

One is going to be at Tesla's mercy after warranty ends. Could be thousands of dollars to keep the car in drivable condition.

http://electrek.co/2017/01/30/tesla-opening-up-service-replacement-parts/

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/out-of-warranty-concerns-about-tesla.38926/page-35

Post 2982
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-s-technical-mechanical-issues.10398/page-150
 
Infinity is a terrible brand. For those that think Teslas are going to be expensive to repair expect big changes on the the way as a result of the 3 and a new channel of repair and support.
 
EVDRIVER said:
Infinity is a terrible brand. For those that think Teslas are going to be expensive to repair expect big changes on the the way as a result of the 3 and a new channel of repair and support.

Will labor and part costs come down? What about the lack of Right to Repair, how does that help people whose cars no longer have warranty and are required to have Tesla fix each and every issue that may affect driveability at a significant dollar amount?
 
EVDRIVER said:
Infinity is a terrible brand. For those that think Teslas are going to be expensive to repair expect big changes on the the way as a result of the 3 and a new channel of repair and support.

Why does every discussion have to degrade into an OT Tesla discussion?

Re: "Infinity [sic] is a terrible brand" - this is entirely subjective. I'm glad to see them get into the EV business after years of teasing us with the LE, and then cancelling it completely.
 
Model S and X parts are expensive because of the way the cars are made and the low production numbers. Model 3 parts will cost much less and service is going to be open up to more independent shops as we ll as owners with more tools available for these parties. There also may be some interesting service bundles in the future with Tesla cars for insurance, etc.
 
GetOffYourGas said:
EVDRIVER said:
Infinity is a terrible brand. For those that think Teslas are going to be expensive to repair expect big changes on the the way as a result of the 3 and a new channel of repair and support.

Why does every discussion have to degrade into an OT Tesla discussion?

Re: "Infinity [sic] is a terrible brand" - this is entirely subjective. I'm glad to see them get into the EV business after years of teasing us with the LE, and then cancelling it completely.

It is subjective, and in terms of relative offerings look at the historic choices consumers made. Look at the history of the Infinity brand relative to other "luxury" brands like Lexus. Let's see what they offer and at what quality level and for what price. Nissan in general is really lagging in the EV dept and conversations often lead to Tesla as they prove to lead the market in many aspects. Consider how new of a company Tesla is compared to Nissan and where they are today, they are a recent car start up company. Nissan in general is still bound by a lack of progressive talent and conservative management in the EV space. The New LEAF exemplifies this in so many ways after seven years of the same model.
 
Wins the award for least-informative-tease-ever?

On the other hand, the full reveal is only a few weeks out.

Infiniti Teases Its Most Advanced Car Ever

Full reveal set for November 28 at Los Angeles Auto Show.


...there’s a good chance the vehicle in question will be a concept rather than a production model. In addition, it will probably feature an electrified powertrain (hybrid or full EV) and perhaps it’s also going to boast autonomous driving technology as seen in most recent high-tech showcars.

We should point out there’s a rumor about Infiniti’s plan to introduce a sporty EV, but the report mentions it will debut in January 2018 at the Detroit Auto Show, not in L.A. Could this be it? It’s hard to say at this point...
https://www.motor1.com/news/185645/infiniti-teaser-los-angeles-debut/
 
Wins the award for least-informative-tease-ever?

On the other hand, the full reveal is only a few weeks out.

Infiniti Teases Its Most Advanced Car Ever

Full reveal set for November 28 at Los Angeles Auto Show.


...there’s a good chance the vehicle in question will be a concept rather than a production model. In addition, it will probably feature an electrified powertrain (hybrid or full EV) and perhaps it’s also going to boast autonomous driving technology as seen in most recent high-tech showcars.

We should point out there’s a rumor about Infiniti’s plan to introduce a sporty EV, but the report mentions it will debut in January 2018 at the Detroit Auto Show, not in L.A. Could this be it? It’s hard to say at this point...
https://www.motor1.com/news/185645/infiniti-teaser-los-angeles-debut/

Let's hope the BEV actually appears in January.

Meanwhile, we did get a PP-equipped ICEV with the world's first production-ready variable compression ratio engine:

INFINITI QX50: A luxury crossover with world-first technologies and an all-new platform

NASHVILLE, Tenn. – The new 2019 QX50 is the most compelling INFINITI to date. Based on an entirely new platform, the new QX50 is a mid-size crossover with world-first technologies, standout design and unrivaled interior space.

"The 2019 QX50 is the most important vehicle we have ever launched, and it embodies everything the brand stands for: beautiful design, advanced technology and empowering performance. As a luxury, mid-size crossover, it's the right vehicle at the right time in one of the world's fastest growing segments."

Christian Meunier, INFINITI Global Division Vice President

The VC-Turbo engine is the world's first production-ready variable compression ratio engine, transforming on demand. A breakthrough in combustion engine design, the 2.0-liter VC-Turbo engine adjusts its compression ratio to optimize power and efficiency. It combines the power of a 2.0-liter turbocharged gasoline engine with the torque and efficiency of a four-cylinder diesel engine. A compelling alternative to diesel, it challenges the notion that only hybrid and diesel powertrains can deliver high torque and efficiency.

"Variable compression ratio technology represents a breakthrough in powertrain development. The QX50, powered by our VC-Turbo, is the first production vehicle ever to give drivers an engine that transforms on demand, setting a new benchmark for powertrain capability and refinement.
Randy Parker, Vice President, INFINITI Americas

A multi-link system continuously raises or lowers the pistons' reach to transform the compression ratio. High compression ratios aid efficiency, while low ratios enable greater power and torque. The VC-Turbo offers any compression ratio between 8:1 (for performance) and 14:1 (for efficiency), maximizing driver control.

The engine delivers 268 hp (200 kW) and 280 lb ft (380 Nm), an expected best-in-class combination of four-cylinder power and torque. The 2019 QX50 is expected to deliver fuel economy of 27 mpg (U.S. combined, front-wheel drive; 26 mpg all-wheel drive). Front-wheel-drive models offer a 35% improvement in fuel efficiency over the previous V6 gasoline QX50; all-wheel-drive models offer a 30% improvement.

The engine is paired with a continuously variable transmission (CVT), for seamless power delivery. Its infinite number of ratios perfectly matches the engine's ability to transform.

The 2019 QX50 is built on an all-new platform, featuring a front-engine, front-wheel-drive-based layout. Engineered with flexibility of application in mind, the new platform sets new standards for refinement, rigidity and interior space in the compact luxury crossover segment.

"The crossover market is the number one premium segment globally. The new QX50 is INFINITI's core model and offers premium buyers everything they could want from a vehicle of this type, thanks in part to the development of an all-new platform that is an ideal combination of roominess and packaging efficiency."
François Bancon, Vice President, Product and Programs

The platform's layout allows for higher levels of packaging efficiency than before, resulting in the new QX50's ideal interior proportions for passengers and cargo.

The 2019 QX50 represents the first automotive use of SHF (Super High Formability) 980 MPa high-tensile steel, further strengthening the all-new platform. The high-tensile material can be molded into unprecedented shapes, saving weight and representing a torsional rigidity improvement of 23% over the current QX50.

New ProPILOT Assist technologies support single-lane highway driving
INFINITI's customers have stated their desire to remain a key element in the driving equation, so the brand's vision for driver-assistance technologies is a step removed from the notion of fully autonomous "driverless" motoring embraced by some carmakers.

"INFINITI's ProPILOT Assist technologies offer support when needed and add to the enjoyment and confidence of the driver. Our intention is to empower the driver and enhance feelings of pleasure behind the wheel, not to remove the driver from the equation. The brand new QX50 will set a new benchmark in the biggest premium segment."
François Bancon, Vice President, Product and Programs

In the 2019 QX50, ProPILOT Assist technologies help the driver control acceleration, braking and steering during single-lane highway driving, placing them in total control. ProPILOT Assist is designed to add to driving enjoyment and confidence, and is available at the push of a button...
https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/release-01b5e32631943f3a659c6d9d6e018185-infiniti-qx50-a-luxury-crossover-with-world-first-technologies-and-an-all-new-platform
 
internalaudit said:
EVDRIVER said:
Infinity is a terrible brand. For those that think Teslas are going to be expensive to repair expect big changes on the the way as a result of the 3 and a new channel of repair and support.

Will labor and part costs come down? What about the lack of Right to Repair, how does that help people whose cars no longer have warranty and are required to have Tesla fix each and every issue that may affect driveability at a significant dollar amount?

Tesla, like all OEMs, have to obey all laws including Right to Repair laws.

Many OEMs that sell unique or rare construction automobiles require shops to have company training and/or company authorized tools in order to fix or repair certain aspects of their cars. And they will only sell certain parts to these certified shops.
 
edatoakrun said:
Wins the award for least-informative-tease-ever?



Infiniti Teases Its Most Advanced Car Ever




Nissan's Carwings telematics was touted as groundbreaking technology, Many years later it's still dated and terrible as the day it was released. "Most advanced" is a very relative term for Nissan. Nissan thinks blending friction brakes with regen is high tech vs using more regen so slow the car to a complete stop. You can take an EV to almost a complete stop without friction blending. It's not like they are trying but they simply are too conservative in product development and too liberal with marketing speak. However, perhaps the pack has active cooling making it groundbreaking.
 
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