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Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:56 pm

I know there are some posts in the other Leaf 2 thread about this. But this deserves its own thread.

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/110 ... r-breaking

Thiis from Brian Maragno, Nissan North America's director of electric-vehicle marketing and sales strategy.

"We think the all-new Leaf will exceed expectations," he suggested, "in range, technology, design, and value."


Moreover, lease extensions ...

The offer applies to any Leaf lessee whose lease expires on April 1 or later, both original lessees and those who have extended their leases one or more times.

For details, lessees should contact Nissan's EV call center at 855-467-3214.


Funny enough they are talking about priority waiting list for Leaf 2 - similar to Tesla.

In general, he said, priorities will vary depending on where the buyer is located, the model and features ordered, and a few other factors.
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:03 pm

They have to match or beat the Bolt, but are a full year behind, if they match their schedule. .

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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:18 pm

eastocean wrote:They have to match or beat the Bolt, but are a full year behind, if they match their schedule. .


Match or beat the Bolt? Too easy. Hell if you stick a 60 KW battery in the existing leaf it would be better than a bolt. We waited to check out the bolt before buying our SV. It was, tacky, noisy, cramped, cheesy, no Nav, and the seats sucked. My guess is the new leaf will blow it away. And most important it won't be a Chevy. All personal taste I suppose but no I don't believe nissan has anything to worry about. Tesla 3 maybe but it will probably be more expensive.

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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:22 pm

Cool! 8-)

Glad to finally see an announcement about reveal and sales timing and that it will be this year (same year as the Bolt.)

Also glad to see us Leaf owners/lessees will get a bump up in the waiting list. Hopefully they don't pull a Tesla and require a bunch of money to get in line.

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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:14 pm

WooHoo! Now we can start guessing about range, battery options, and price!

If we concentrate on range and value, the current leaders are:
Hyundai Ioniq – 124 miles, $29.5K
Chevy Bolt – 238 miles, $37.5K

So Nissan could slot in:
Leaf 1.0 30kWh – 107 miles, $20.5K (just go ahead drop the MSRP while supplies last)
Hyundai Ioniq – 124 miles, $29.5K
Leaf 2.0 42kWh – 155 miles, $32.5K
Leaf 2.0 60kWh – 242 miles, $36.5K
Chevy Bolt – 238 miles, $37.5K

As long as the design is good, that would be a compelling, competitive line up. The only gotcha is the Bolt is probably still faster because Chevy cares about the 0-60 and handling but Nissan doesn’t (at least in the EV world).
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:00 pm

jhm614 wrote:WooHoo! Now we can start guessing about range, battery options, and price!


Leaf 2.0 60kWh – 242 miles, $36.5K
Chevy Bolt – 238 miles, $37.5K

As long as the design is good, that would be a compelling, competitive line up. The only gotcha is the Bolt is probably still faster because Chevy cares about the 0-60 and handling but Nissan doesn’t (at least in the EV world).
A base Tesla Model 3 starts at $35k USD and will have about 220 miles of highway range. I like my LEAF a lot, but for the same price as a Tesla ? Knowing the dismal state of Nissan's support of EV ownership and its handling of battery degradation ? Without a supercharger network ?

This hardly seems like a fair fight.
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:02 pm

So I can order a Tesla Model 3 in September, for delivery in December at the latest? Great! And Tesla service centers will be springing up in New York, near me? Excellent!
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:45 am

webeleafowners wrote:Match or beat the Bolt? Too easy. Hell if you stick a 60 KW battery in the existing leaf it would be better than a bolt. We waited to check out the bolt before buying our SV. It was, tacky, noisy, cramped, cheesy, no Nav, and the seats sucked. My guess is the new leaf will blow it away. And most important it won't be a Chevy. All personal taste I suppose but no I don't believe nissan has anything to worry about. Tesla 3 maybe but it will probably be more expensive.

Jmho

Not everyone will be as enthusiastic about that 60kwh Leaf in a head to head if it still lacks TMS. GM has a good track record with battery longevity so even if the Bolt is a little noisier going down the road at least it's still, well, going down the road.
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:50 am

The details of the 2018 Leaf pre-order list are still being finalized, he said, so he couldn't specify the priority rankings of those who sign up via the lease-extension program.

It will also be opened to current Leaf owners, those who have purchased their cars outright—whether new or as Certified Pre-Owned cars at the end of their leases.

In general, he said, priorities will vary depending on where the buyer is located, the model and features ordered, and a few other factors.

Those details will become available once the 2018 Leaf is unveiled in September and final pricing and features are released after that.


This could be a long wait. My lease is up in August. Waiting until December is one thing, but waiting until next August. . . ? Even with 3 free months. For a car I have no details on yet. Too many unknowns.
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:39 am

I really, really don't want to drive my 2013 for another likely-harsh Winter. Summer will be enough of an annoyance, range-wise. I'm hoping for a December delivery, unless I fall in love with a Bolt or Ioniq first. Nissan would be wise to release some actual pictures of the actual car, even if it's a pre-production version. There are two or three artists renderings of the car that was under wraps in the spy photos, that are probably very close, but I'm not waiting that long for an artist's rendering.
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