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DNAinaGoodWay
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:38 am

In general, he said, priorities will vary depending on where the buyer is located, the model and features ordered, and a few other factors.

Those details will become available once the 2018 Leaf is unveiled in September and final pricing and features are released after that.


So, CA of course, then the other CARB states?
Fully loaded SLs first?
A few other factors?

How many can they produce per week?
'12 SL last reading @ 2 yr, 22k, 260 GIDs, 62.35 Ahr

'15 SV w/QC, Mfd 5/14, Leased 8/14, 292 GIDs, 64.38 Ahr when new

@ 25 months, 25k, 267 GID, 56.88 AHr
@ 36 months, 34k, 270 GID, 57.49 AHr


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DNAinaGoodWay
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:18 pm

Called NMAC to get more details. Very busy.
They emphasized that the 3 free months would have to be repaid if no 2018 is bought.
Said preorders won't start until September, at dealerships only, and priority list will be set up at that time, with a deposit.
So, maybe I'll extend for a month anyway to see how it compares to Bolt. No way to know until September at this point.
'12 SL last reading @ 2 yr, 22k, 260 GIDs, 62.35 Ahr

'15 SV w/QC, Mfd 5/14, Leased 8/14, 292 GIDs, 64.38 Ahr when new

@ 25 months, 25k, 267 GID, 56.88 AHr
@ 36 months, 34k, 270 GID, 57.49 AHr


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LeftieBiker
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:50 pm

They emphasized that the 3 free months would have to be repaid if no 2018 is bought.


Or unless you buy your leased car. I might do that to resell it, but only for $5k or less.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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SageBrush
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:54 pm

desiv wrote:
SageBrush wrote:A base Tesla Model 3 starts at $35k USD and will have about 220 miles of highway range. I like my LEAF a lot, but for the same price as a Tesla ? Knowing the dismal state of Nissan's support of EV ownership and its handling of battery degradation ? Without a supercharger network ?

Choice is good for everyone...
Personally, I'm not a sedan fan,
In my personal world, "sedan" is a brain-dead design. I have never owned one and I never thought I would. Damn you, Tesla! In the US though, sedans are preferred some 9:1 overall. I am not sure if that holds for the EV buying market.

If I find that the Model 3 sedanish design is just too much to bear, I'll wait for the Model 'Y.' I actually just hedged my bets today by buying a Prius Prime to join our car stable along with our LEAF. I know that does not sound like much more EV in the family, but for our use case it almost doubles my MPG to work and our household liquid fossil fuel consumption will drop to ~ 130 gallons a year for 16k miles a year. I can live with that until a brilliant, ICE level versatile, full EV is available.
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

Ladewig
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:07 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
They emphasized that the 3 free months would have to be repaid if no 2018 is bought.


Or unless you buy your leased car. I might do that to resell it, but only for $5k or less.


I received the paperwork for my lease extension and it says absolutely nothing about the 2018 model, nor did it ever come up in my conversation with them other than to say that part of the promotion was access to the waitlist when available.

The only penalty in the lease extension paperwork is an early termination charge of three payments (to recover the courtesy payments) if you terminate the lease more than six months prior to lease maturity. So basically you have to hang around long enough to see the details of the 2018 announcement.
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:33 am

As it stands today, I'll be doing the extension and then - if it turns out to be as good as promised - I'll custom order a 2018 SV to lease and then, hopefully, buy. I'd kind of expected to have no range anxiety this Summer, but if NY actually installs a few charging stations in state parks as just promised (?), that won't be a big issue anyway. I'll still try to keep my 2013's pack from getting hot, but won't worry quite as much about it. I wonder when a 2018 Leaf ordered in September would actually get delivered here?
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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akat
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:12 pm

How does the lease extension work with respect to lease miles? Do we get additional miles per month of extension? What if we have miles left over on the original lease. Is there a way to sign a no additional miles lease extension for lower per month cost?
2015 Nissan LEAF SL/Premium

LeftieBiker
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Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:38 pm

akat wrote:How does the lease extension work with respect to lease miles? Do we get additional miles per month of extension? What if we have miles left over on the original lease. Is there a way to sign a no additional miles lease extension for lower per month cost?


The original terms are retained, so you get the same number of miles per six months as in the original lease.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

The most offensive, tasteless phrase in use here is "Pulled the trigger." I no longer respond to posts that use it.

finman100
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Location: Albany, OR

Re: Leaf 2 to be revealed in Sept, on sales before end of the year

Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:33 am

No Supercharger, no deal Nissan. Are you listening?

No TMS, no deal Nissan. Are you listening?

Long range, bigger battery BEVs need BOTH. You do know about a company that can help you there, right? They've about 400,000 plus interested parties more than your "Leaf 2.0".

Come with your 'A' game and I might stay Nissan. I'm actually done with the hot battery, 50 kW max 'quick charge'. Nice for regional travel, but my next EV is going to take me out of state (across several!) and back again.

No more hodgepodge of broken, non-functional, 3rd party chargers that have but ONE stall per crappy DC charge location. Been that way for 3 years. More for those earlier adopters. What the what? And I have it REALLY good here in the Pac NW!

Love my Leaf, but Nissan, you have got to over impress me. The Model 3 is coming...
Albany, Oregon
2014 Silver SV with charge/LED package. June 2014, I'm in the EV game!
40,200 miles
18.5 kWh on 100% charge (54-ish Ah)
4.2 miles/kWh average
Best trip: all of 'em. They're all no-gas!


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