2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

[edatoakrun]

you really want to DC fast charge a non-TMS battery pack? More than 3 times in a row?...

I wouldn't worry about the pack, but I would worry about the mental condition of anyone wanting to regularly drive close to 1,000 miles nonstop...

[A reliable commentator on the Kia forum has posted some un-sourced details on the 2019 "60 kWh" LEAF pack...

Sorry. My comments about the future Nissan Leaf are not reliable...

In that case, I'm back to my earlier suppositions:

There will never be a TMS in a car with the name Leaf.

Probably not, fortunately.

Per my post earlier in this thread, the 60 kWh battery pack will be made by LG Chem (available sometime in 2019).

Possibly, but more likely (IMO) the 2019 LEAF "60 kWh" packs, like all other 2013-on USA-made LEAF packs, will come from the (former) AESC factory at Smyrna, Tennessee, though it may license the same technology LG does, and so be quite similar in terms of design and performance.

[finman100]

mental condition. ha. that's a good one. pot, meet kettle.

[EatsShootsandLeafs]

This will bring range over 200 of course, but Nissan should already have this an an option, in 2018. The problem they'll face is once the $5k+ cost premium is built in, it's no longer the cheap EV. It will directly compete in cost against the Bolt and the Model 3.

[JejuSoul]

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My speculation is that the B olt / N iro / Kona EVs all use the same battery, purchased as a unit from LG Chem. Kia simply chooses to advertise "total" capacity whereas Chevy advertises "usable". The fact that Kia claims identical range to the B olt is telling.

No. The K ia N iro EV will use SK Innovation battery cells. Kia has always used usable capacity in the past.
The marketing fluff we are seeing about '64kWh' and 238km range should probably be ignored for now.

[TonyWilliams]

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My speculation is that the B olt / N iro / Kona EVs all use the same battery, purchased as a unit from LG Chem. Kia simply chooses to advertise "total" capacity whereas Chevy advertises "usable". The fact that Kia claims identical range to the B olt is telling.

No. The K ia N iro EV will use SK Innovation battery cells. Kia has always used usable capacity in the past.
The marketing fluff we are seeing about '64kWh' and 238km range should probably be ignored for now.

The Bolt EV has 57kWh usable capacity

Bolt EV

LG-Chem cells
3.7 volts nominal
288 total cells
96 series * 3 parallel
171.4ah per EPA filing

60kWh = 288 cells * (171.4 published AmpHour * 3.7 volt nominal per cell)

400 volt maximum (plus or minus 5 volts)

57kWh usable when new at room temperature

[rmay635703]

https://electrek.co/2018/02/16/new-niss ... e-e-power/

While looking for Nissan ebio ethanol fuel cell updates I found the next small tidbit

[kmartyn]

Nissan is teasing on Twitter that the 2019 Leaf maybe announced tomorrow.

https://insideevs.com/nissan-teases-som ... -tomorrow/

[GetOffYourGas]

Nissan is teasing on Twitter that the 2019 Leaf maybe announced tomorrow.

https://insideevs.com/nissan-teases-som ... -tomorrow/

Alas, no such thing happened. I was very disappointed by their "announcement".

[EVDRIVER]

Nissan is teasing on Twitter that the 2019 Leaf maybe announced tomorrow.

https://insideevs.com/nissan-teases-som ... -tomorrow/

Nissan loves to make everything seem new and cutting edge, like Carwings. This is just an ad push to try and get more sales before they start doing big discounting later this year as they usually do.

[kmartyn]

Canadian dealers are now sending out email notices that Leaf 2018 model is sold out, and that the 2019 model year will be $800-900 more.
I cannot see how they would be able to get 60KWH with TMS, faster charging and a bigger motor in there for that price.