Jedlacks
Posts: 168
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:10 pm
Delivery Date: 10 Mar 2018
Leaf Number: 303628
Location: Kennesaw, GA

Re: 2018 LEAF, Capacity, Range and efficiency

Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:19 am

edatoakrun wrote:
Jedlacks wrote:This is a Japanese blog that I stumbled across through a YouTuber.

https://ev-owners.jp/blog/blog.cgi?id=6352

...The words get jumbled in translation, but the message is still there. "The battery gets hot quickly, and the charge rate plummets"...

Google translation does not produce that actual quote.

Not enough intelligible data there to really discuss, initial charge state, ambient/battery temperatures, charger ratings etc.

We'll have many long-range trips with charging rate data from USA LEAFs to consider, very soon.

But thank you for making a semi-on-topic comment, after the 25 consecutive off-topic comments before, and already one more afterwards.


No thanks for your summary, troll.
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edatoakrun
Posts: 5222
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:33 am
Delivery Date: 15 May 2011
Leaf Number: 2184
Location: Shasta County, North California

Re: 2018 LEAF, Capacity, Range and efficiency

Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:12 am

EPA test results for 2018 LEAF indicate usable pack capacity is close to 40 kWh, highway and city test cycle results respectively:

...Recharge Event Energy (kiloWatt-hours) 44.8318
187.709 Charge Depleting Range (Actual miles) 187.709...

AC Energy(kWh/100mile):23.8837 , Net Vehicle DC energy consumption [DC Wh/mile]:209...

Recharge Event Energy (kiloWatt-hours) 44.8318
Charge Depleting Range (Actual miles) 231.462...

AC Energy(kWh/100mile):19.3689 , Net Vehicle DC energy consumption [DC Wh/mile]:170...

https://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_ ... 085&flag=1
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DaveinOlyWA
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Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:43 pm
Delivery Date: 16 Feb 2018
Leaf Number: 314199
Location: Olympia, WA
Contact: Website

Re: 2018 LEAF, Capacity, Range and efficiency

Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:02 pm

edatoakrun wrote:EPA test results for 2018 LEAF indicate usable pack capacity is close to 40 kWh, highway and city test cycle results respectively:

...Recharge Event Energy (kiloWatt-hours) 44.8318
187.709 Charge Depleting Range (Actual miles) 187.709...

AC Energy(kWh/100mile):23.8837 , Net Vehicle DC energy consumption [DC Wh/mile]:209...

Recharge Event Energy (kiloWatt-hours) 44.8318
Charge Depleting Range (Actual miles) 231.462...

AC Energy(kWh/100mile):19.3689 , Net Vehicle DC energy consumption [DC Wh/mile]:170...

https://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_ ... 085&flag=1


I have yet to figure out what the baseline parameters are for a full pack is.

Each full charge has varied in GID, SOC and kwh available. Highest usable was 39.5 kwh available but with LEAF Spy measured SOC of 99.5%!
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 11,987 miles, 485 GIDs, 37.6 kwh 110.89 Ahr , SOH 96.00, Hx 115.22
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Jollermd
Posts: 8
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:47 pm
Delivery Date: 26 Feb 2018
Location: Naperville illinois

Re: 2018 LEAF, Capacity, Range and efficiency

Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:03 pm

Today I drove my brand new, 2018 SL for about 75 miles, mixed 70 mph hwy, stop and go HWY and local roads.... drove hard playing around
and feeling all that new torque, and arrived home with 51%. NOW THAT IS PROGRESS. And the high pitched whine is gone that I had on the former leaf.

497 GIDS after charging last night.

Propilot drove perfectly through Chicago stop and go traffic, keeping safe distance from car in front and couple of cars that cut in the gap the leaf left in front of me.

I'm 235 lbs, 6 ft 1 and my legs enjoyed the freedom to be off the pedal, the center console? (fake news?) was not a concern, the analog speedometer has a cool retro look. I programmed driving into default E mode.

Bill Kay Nissan gave me 10k for my old leaf that Carmax had offered 7.5k..... and $1000 loyalty credit. 0% financing for I forget how many years. It still had 282 GIDS after 3.5 years on the trusty old leaf. Total cost of maintenance <$500 (tire changes, brake flush and new 12v battery)

By backup old ICE, a 2007 Lexus LS430 that I used when the old Leaf could not make the distance is going be a very lonely car.

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jonathanfields4ever
Posts: 93
Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:55 pm
Delivery Date: 15 Feb 2018
Location: Kyoto

Re: 2018 LEAF, Capacity, Range and efficiency

Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:33 am

I’ve been driving my Leaf for less than 20 days but I hit 1,620km this evening (just over 1000mi) and my efficiency thingy says 8.6km/kWh average. Whoever delivered it had a lead foot or had the air on all the time or something because it got to me at 5.1 and it’s slowly been climbing since I took over.

I live in a mountainous area and my commute involves going up and down from sea level to 800m two or three times. I’m really quite impressed with how it performs. I think I could easily get 9km/kWh in the city. That would translate to a 200mi range.

I drive with Eco mode and e-Pedal with the car in B. I don’t notice much difference between B and D when e-Pedal is on, but I like to think I get better regen or something.

jonathanfields4ever
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Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:55 pm
Delivery Date: 15 Feb 2018
Location: Kyoto

Re: 2018 LEAF, Capacity, Range and efficiency

Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:26 am

Jedlacks wrote:
edatoakrun wrote:
Jedlacks wrote:This is a Japanese blog that I stumbled across through a YouTuber.

https://ev-owners.jp/blog/blog.cgi?id=6352

...The words get jumbled in translation, but the message is still there. "The battery gets hot quickly, and the charge rate plummets"...

Google translation does not produce that actual quote.

Not enough intelligible data there to really discuss, initial charge state, ambient/battery temperatures, charger ratings etc.

We'll have many long-range trips with charging rate data from USA LEAFs to consider, very soon.

But thank you for making a semi-on-topic comment, after the 25 consecutive off-topic comments before, and already one more afterwards.


No thanks for your summary, troll.


How is that a troll? He just pointed out that it doesn’t say what you claim and doesn’t have enough other information to draw any conclusions.

Basically, dude went on a 4 day road trip, drove 1500km, and was disappointed in the charging stations. Some gave as little as 9.6kWh in 30 minutes. I can tell you he’s just goofy. When you buy the car they tell you to avoid 20kW chargers unless you just want a quick top up, and that it takes 40 minutes to get to 80% at a Nissan 44kW or service area 50kW charging station. He goes on to say that he hopes the rumored 150kW chargers are installed at service stations soon.

The part you mention says, “It says on some other blog that quick charging heats up the battery and the amount you can charge is diminished. Indeed, in one 500km leg of my trip where I charged 5 times, the amount diminished as I progressed.”

However, he doesn’t say what type of chargers he stopped at, how hot it was outside, or anything that will help us know if this is a real issue. Service areas along toll roads tend to have 50kW chargers, but I’ve seen 20, 25, 30, 40, 44, and 50kW “quick” chargers.

I’ve never seen the battery even get to the halfway mark of the heat bar thing in all my quick charging. But to be fair it’s been between 0 and about 15C every day since I got the car.

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