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Re: Very little buzz on this board about 2018 Leafs being available

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:33 pm
by LeftieBiker
The Leaf Too is a trade-off car, with several great features removed to help pay for the higher capacity and Pro Pilot. Since I have little desire to pay $200 a month more to lose things like Around View, the top display, 80% charge option and the nice rocker toggle switches for Cruise and radio station change, I'll wait until I have to get something else. Maybe it will be a Leaf, maybe not. I'm currently trying to see if the 30kwh 2017 Leaf is a viable option. In any case Nissan and GM between them have made sure that I won't love whatever car I get like I do my 2013 SV.

Re: Very little buzz on this board about 2018 Leafs being available

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:36 pm
by DanCar
mtndrew1 wrote:Yep. The new Leaf is analogous to a new Corolla. It’s fine, they’ll sell a bunch of them, but this is not a product anyone gets excited about.
Especially true when the 2019 Leaf looks much more interesting. Will be fun when we start to learn more details about the 2019 Leaf. https://electrek.co/2018/01/04/nissan-l ... -charging/

The 2019 Leaf may also carry the Mobileye EyeQ4 chip which according to Mobileye would allow driverless capability. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lane_cent ... leye_EyeQ4

Re: Very little buzz on this board about 2018 Leafs being available

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:43 pm
by LeftieBiker
If I knew that the 2019 leaf would be available (not just "revealed") in September, I'd try for a lease extension, or even go without a car of my own for two or three months. I do have an electric motorcycle and my housemate drives a PIP that I can borrow as needed. It isn't the larger pack that interests me, though. It's the Pro Park option. Of course they'll probably restrict that to the SL here.

Re: Very little buzz on this board about 2018 Leafs being available

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:13 am
by powersurge
I think that the low amount of excitement for the new car is Nissan's fault...

It is hard to get excited about a car that is still not in stores, and when it is available, the price will be non-negotiable.

That, and the fact that most of us who write here already have Leafs, makes this upgraded model "nice", but not a "must have".

I guess its like going to a singles bar with your wife... You may see nice ones there, but you are still going home with her...

Re: Very little buzz on this board about 2018 Leafs being available

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:43 am
by edatoakrun
powersurge wrote:I think that the low amount of excitement for the new car is Nissan's fault...

It is hard to get excited about a car that is still not in stores, and when it is available, the price will be non-negotiable...

594 2018 LEAFs now in official inventory, either at dealers or on the way:

https://www.nissanusa.com/buildyourniss ... tory.link#

First lease report, >$2,500 discount from list on an SL:

2018 Leaf

simply wrote:Lease Details:

Lease Date: 02/07/18
Location: Washington D.C. metro area
Vehicle: NEW 2018 Nissan Leaf SL
Exterior Color: Blue
Interior Color: Tan

Sticker Base MSRP $38115
Agreed Upon Vehicle Price $35559.00

Capitalized Cost Reduction $7900.00
Adjusted capitalized Cost $30323.06
Residual Value $12196.80

va state sales tax $1,247.56
va title, license, registration $132.50
Acquisition Fee $595.00

Rent Charge $1086
Monthly Payment $533.70

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=25282

No reason to get excited, IMO, but if you are looking for the most practical BEV available, you should be considering a LEAF.

Re: Very little buzz on this board about 2018 Leafs being available

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:17 pm
by like2bike
I too am disappointed by the lack of buzz. However I agree with all the reasons given above: No fanfare from Nissan; Nothing exceptional above the car; And most people here already have a LEAF.

Still it seems like the best choice for most people. Unfortunately, many will be waiting for next round of EV launches using the same old excuses: Not enough range; Not the type of car I want; Still too expensive.

I think it will do OK when the available buyers compare cars. The trying-to-not-standout styling should bring new interest.