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Re: 60 kWh LEAF Introduction Placed on HOLD

Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:44 am

Looks like we have a new launch date for CES in Vegas so just around the corner...

But I am guessing that is not going to be the topic of the day... ;)
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Re: 60 kWh LEAF Introduction Placed on HOLD

Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:40 am

What do you know that I don't, Dave?
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 60 kWh LEAF Introduction Placed on HOLD

Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:42 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:What do you know that I don't, Dave?


Surprised you have not seen this yet.

https://www.electrive.com/2018/12/04/ex ... 0qjS8Yxsqg
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Re: 60 kWh LEAF Introduction Placed on HOLD

Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:44 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:But I am guessing that is not going to be the topic of the day... ;)


I was referring to this part. Is there something else big planned for CES? Or are you just saying that those watching CES don't give a hoot about the Leaf?
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 60 kWh LEAF Introduction Placed on HOLD

Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:47 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:But I am guessing that is not going to be the topic of the day... ;)


I was referring to this part. Is there something else big planned for CES? Or are you just saying that those watching CES don't give a hoot about the Leaf?


I was referring to the absence of liquid cooling.
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Re: 60 kWh LEAF Introduction Placed on HOLD

Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:31 pm

Nissan should make a big dry splash with that one.

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Re: 60 kWh LEAF Introduction Placed on HOLD

Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:57 pm

Are there other sources for the below in bold/underlined.

https://electrek.co/2018/12/04/60kwh-ni ... -be-there/

100kW CHAdeMO
Along with the 60kWh battery pack, which sadly is still rumored to be passively air cooled, Nissan is expected to up its CHAdeMO charging speeds to 100kW. That’s an impressive charging speed and we hope we’ll get some corresponding announcements from charging providers that will announce 100kW additions/upgrades to their network. The only current US vehicle with 100kW CHAdeMO is the Kia Soul EV which just got replaced by a double sized battery version that will now charge via CCS combo.

Battery Supplier
Nissan recently abandoned its own battery production arm and decided to outsource its battery production, as the new LEAF will reportedly source its pack from LG. That’s where its competition Chevy Bolt and Hyundai are sourcing their 60-ish kWh batteries from too so don’t expect too much differentiation there.
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Re: 60 kWh LEAF Introduction Placed on HOLD

Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:52 am

Another article on it. Wow.

https://www.electrive.com/2018/12/04/exclusive-long-range-leaf-to-debut-without-liquid-cooling/

When this information was conveyed at an event for Nissan dealers yesterday, a whisper could be heard across the rows as it became clear that the 60 kWh battery will have to go along without liquid cooling. The lack of such active heat dissipation had already led to the issue known as Rapidgate on social media. Back then, the current battery generation (40 kWh) exhibited problems with repeated DC charging, especially in hot climates. The necessary reduction in charging capacity in turn led to significantly longer charging times – a nuisance on long journeys, as the editors of electrive.net had to find more than once.
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Re: 60 kWh LEAF Introduction Placed on HOLD

Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:07 pm

Nissan would have to offer crazy good warranty on 60 KWH battery, otherwise I am not sure they will find many brave hearts to cover over $15K for battery replacement.
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Re: 60 kWh LEAF Introduction Placed on HOLD

Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:25 pm

Well, there are a couple of advantages, one being that there is virtually no vampire drain. Leave your Tesla at an airport for 6 weeks and it’s pretty much a brick. A Leaf might lose 3 percent of charge. There may be more but not sure.
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