Leaf15 wrote:SageBrush wrote:Leaf15 wrote:Ops, the car is loosing on average 20 miles a night to keep battery worm,
May be in Colorado it is BS, not in PA (we have urban mountain areas as well where temp it 10-15F lower than average). It also depends if car is kept in garage or outside even in the same area(as it makes big deviations in temperatures). I take it you are not an authority for North East while living at place where "Winters are mild with an average daily high temperature of 45 degrees Fahrenheit and days reaching 60 degrees are not uncommon". We have 20F during day here lately. Think what happens during night? Low single digits F it is.
Besides, colleague had no reason to exaggerate or bad mouth his brand new car. BTW, he also mentioned it was ~ 15 miles in the late November when it was 45F day average (not night). I am kind of feeling guilty for suggesting him Model 3 LR, because it seems to fit his needs. But there is nothing else with longer range, so he would have to figure out how to do those trips. I overlooked parasitic BMS drain as I never experienced it on my Leaf; and thankfully, I never will.
I live in an area where under 0F, while not every day during the winter, is pretty common and - 15F is reason to remark about the weather. My car lives outside.
UNLIKE you, I actually own a Tesla Model 3. In my winter climate the vampire drain is ~ 1 -2 miles per 24 hours. One thing that does happen, though it is true of all batteries, is that battery capacity drops with temperature. As the battery warms up the range returns. Your friend noted a drop in range but both of you did not understand the cause or significance.