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Is the heat pump worth an extra $1,400 to get an SV?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:14 pm

I am considering two different 2015 Nissan Leafs:

S
Charge Package Upgrade (6.6 kW Onboard Charger + Quick Charge Port)
38,236 miles
$10,600

and

SV
47,890 miles
$12,000

Assuming both batteries are in good shape, does anyone have advice on whether the additional range/efficiency from the heat pump is worth the extra $1,400 I would need to spend in order to make the jump to the SV?

I live in Tennessee, where our winters are "mild," but we still get temperatures in the 10-20 degree range for several days/weeks over the past few years.

Thanks for the help!

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Re: Is the heat pump worth an extra $1,400 to get an SV?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:45 pm

In your location the heatpump is worth it, because it saves the most range in temps from 30F - 50F. It still saves some range from Freezing down to about 15F.
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Re: Is the heat pump worth an extra $1,400 to get an SV?

Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:16 am

I would definitely pick the SV, it's worth the extra $$$ - see this link for more details on what you get with the SV:

https://insideevs.com/2015-nissan-leaf- ... s-options/

If the SV also includes the QC package and the S doesn't, then it's a no brainer.

Also, the high mileage on the SV will scare off many potential buyers (it shouldn't if the battery is in good shape), so use that to your advantage and bargain on the price with the seller.
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Re: Is the heat pump worth an extra $1,400 to get an SV?

Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:21 pm

I would never buy the "S" version of a Leaf purely due to the lack of CarWings/NissanConnect functionality. It's one of those things that's better to have and not need than need and not have.
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Re: Is the heat pump worth an extra $1,400 to get an SV?

Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:08 pm

Not having Carwings was a plus for me (I have an S). From what I've read (I don't have it of course....) it works poorly, can drain the 12V battery, requires 'upgrades' on some models, etc. It also seems to be a portal by which malicious actors could possibly hack into the car.

OK, that last one is a stretch :lol: but for me a car is a car is a car. If it goes from point A to point B comfortably, then it is good.

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Re: Is the heat pump worth an extra $1,400 to get an SV?

Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:23 am

I live in the northern tier and I don't think the heat pump is worth it. Easier to simply dress for the weather.
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Re: Is the heat pump worth an extra $1,400 to get an SV?

Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:02 am

This is a personal decision and there are many factors to consider. I have 2015 S and I live near Chicago. With the heated steering wheel and heated seats, I pretty much only use the heat to defrost the windshield. But my commute is only about 25 miles round trip, so I rarely worry about the battery level.

Also, I didn't care to pay for a CarWings subscription and wasn't particularly excited about the other SV upgrades.


If I was living in Tennessee I would not pay an extra $1,400, but you'll have to decide what's best for you. Good luck!

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Re: Is the heat pump worth an extra $1,400 to get an SV?

Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:21 am

oz10k wrote:Also, I didn't care to pay for a CarWings subscription

Nissan has (so far) never charged for a CarWings subscription.
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Re: Is the heat pump worth an extra $1,400 to get an SV?

Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:33 am

jlv wrote:
oz10k wrote:Also, I didn't care to pay for a CarWings subscription

Nissan has (so far) never charged for a CarWings subscription.


Didn't have to since they disguised the charge as a $200 module upgrade ;)
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Re: Is the heat pump worth an extra $1,400 to get an SV?

Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:13 am

I have to disagree, the heat pump is worth it if your winters are moderately cold, precisely because the additional efficiency of the heat pump means you don't have to bundle up and can instead use the seat warmers along with the climate control heat. Of course, for longer drives you still need to minimize the use of cabin heating, but it's less of an issue.
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