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[jonathanfields4ever]

Hello everyone, I'm new to the Forum. I live in west Tokyo, Japan and just ordered my Leaf 2 days ago. Thought I would join the Forum to stay ahead of any quirks or maintenance issues...

I had a lot of issues with the computer in mine. I've owned the car for a little over a month now but I've been driving a loaner for most of that. Apparently Leafs nationwide are having myriad issues with the computer and nav system.

There happened to be an X (the equivalent of an SV for Americans) available that was exactly the color and trim level I wanted. With taxes and everything it came to ¥3,554,334. I also opted for the ZESP2 full membership since I drive about 100km a day.

After if get the ¥400,000 subsidy dealy, I'll be sitting pretty I think. Did they tell you about how long it takes to get that? My guy said about a month, but when I looked online some people said it took 3 or 4 months for them.

Thats awful man, I havent had an issue with my car at all. My only real complaint so for is the lack of consistency between quick chargers. The nearest one to me is lucky to put out 30kw, I end up using one a 3km away that is usually around 40kw...The only time i've experienced a true quick charge was at a PA on the way to Mt. Fuji.

I also opted for the full membership although I only drive about 20km a day, I just want to the ability to hit the road without worrying about charger fees, and I don't want to affect my power bill until my solar panels are up. I was told 3-4 months for the subsidy.

Yeah, they’re all over the place, for sure.

I’ve figured out that Family Marts are typically rated at 20kW, Lawson at 25kW, Nissan dealerships at 44kW, and highway rest stops at 50kW.

I find my favorite are Lawson. I can grab a drink and a karaage-kun and I get 40-50km in just 15 minutes. It’s a charge rate of aboout .5C so it should be relatively easy on the battery as well. I’ve never seen the battery temperature bar go much above half way even at a 50kW charger, but it can’t hurt to be a bit precautious.

As for the subsidy, mine came at around the 2 month mark.

[ZakZak]

I had a lot of issues with the computer in mine. I've owned the car for a little over a month now but I've been driving a loaner for most of that. Apparently Leafs nationwide are having myriad issues with the computer and nav system.

There happened to be an X (the equivalent of an SV for Americans) available that was exactly the color and trim level I wanted. With taxes and everything it came to ¥3,554,334. I also opted for the ZESP2 full membership since I drive about 100km a day.

After if get the ¥400,000 subsidy dealy, I'll be sitting pretty I think. Did they tell you about how long it takes to get that? My guy said about a month, but when I looked online some people said it took 3 or 4 months for them.

Thats awful man, I havent had an issue with my car at all. My only real complaint so for is the lack of consistency between quick chargers. The nearest one to me is lucky to put out 30kw, I end up using one a 3km away that is usually around 40kw...The only time i've experienced a true quick charge was at a PA on the way to Mt. Fuji.

I also opted for the full membership although I only drive about 20km a day, I just want to the ability to hit the road without worrying about charger fees, and I don't want to affect my power bill until my solar panels are up. I was told 3-4 months for the subsidy.

Yeah, they’re all over the place, for sure.

I’ve figured out that Family Marts are typically rated at 20kW, Lawson at 25kW, Nissan dealerships at 44kW, and highway rest stops at 50kW.

I find my favorite are Lawson. I can grab a drink and a karaage-kun and I get 40-50km in just 15 minutes. It’s a charge rate of aboout .5C so it should be relatively easy on the battery as well. I’ve never seen the battery temperature bar go much above half way even at a 50kW charger, but it can’t hurt to be a bit precautious.

As for the subsidy, mine came at around the 2 month mark.

Yea i suppose the slow charging is offset by the low speeds we generally drive, the shorter distances required, and the low strain on the battery. I'm happy so far.

[Hedgefundie]

Got this offer from Nissan Serramonte in Bay Area:

2018 Leaf SV w/ Tech package, splash guard
VIN: 1N4AZ1CP2JC304171
STOCK:N80404
MSRP: $36,200
Price: $30,595
0% APR for 72 months.

Additional $10,500 in state, federal, and utility rebates brings final cost down to $20,095 ( + taxes & destination).

Should I take it?

[sunil]

Also check PG&E - there is an additional 3K rebate so with 3.5K from PG&E & Fed & State your price will be 17095. Wow. One caveat : no all-weather package (if you needed heated seats and steering wheel you need to keep looking).

[Hedgefundie]

That PG&E $3k is given by the dealer so it is already included in the $30k price.

Live in CA. No need for heat.

[edatoakrun]

Got this offer from Nissan Serramonte in Bay Area:

2018 Leaf SV w/ Tech package, splash guard
VIN: 1N4AZ1CP2JC304171
STOCK:N80404
MSRP: $36,200
Price: $30,595
0% APR for 72 months.

Additional $10,500 in state, federal, and utility rebates brings final cost down to $20,095 ( + taxes & destination).

Should I take it?

I think that ~$2,600 discount by nissan from list price may be the best deal I've seen reported.

Hard to predict if there might be better offers, in the future.

BTW, I had to pay just over "$20,095 ( + taxes & destination)" for my 2011 SL with the DC port (optional!) ~seven years ago.

We should be very pleased by how rapidly BEV prices have fallen since Nissan introduced them to the USA mass-market, now approaching a 50% price reduction, when you consider the value of the huge improvements in the LEAF since then.

[iPlug]

Order details here for the Leaf continue to prove why MSRP should not be used as a tool when comparing vehicle price with other BEVs. Incentives on Leafs, but not all BEVs, push the real price far below MSRP. The Leaf has a significant number of faults, but continues to be one of the best BEV value propositions.

[DaveinOlyWA]

A Lot of Memorial Day specials going on right now. Several advertising discounts on leases that more than overcomes the reduced fed tax credit discount.