jotunheim
Posts: 6
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:51 am
Delivery Date: 05 Sep 2013
Location: Milwaukee, WI

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:07 pm

Lease was up on my 2013 Leaf SL in September, in which I elected to extend for 6 months. I originally was planning on going with the Bolt, but didn't think it would be ready in the Great Lakes region by March 2017 when I was required to turn in the car and was still a bit uncomfortable ordering a car that I had not test driven. I know reviews have been very good overall, but there have been notes that the Bolt is lacking a bit in interior quality and comfort - two aspects I have been very pleased with in the Leaf.

Anyway, I decided to get the 2016 Leaf SL. Yes, the range is not where I would like it to be, but the Nissan NCTC program actually mitigates this pretty well for me, as a lot of the miles I put on are between Milwaukee and Madison and both are part of the program. Here is how the deal panned out:

2016 Nissan Leaf SL with Premium Package
MSRP $38755
36 month lease
15,000 miles
Down payment of $2500
Monthly payment of $299.05 (includes taxes and fees)
Residual of $12,400 (not sure on this one)

In the end, I was pretty happy with the deal. It was only $9 per month higher than what I had with the 2013 SL, but now have the increased range, NCTC, and I know the reduced residual makes it harder to keep the payments static from 2013. Dealer (Gordie Boucher in Greenfield, WI) claims he lost $2300 on the deal, but who knows.

PhilipK
Posts: 1
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:12 pm
Delivery Date: 20 Dec 2016

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:35 am

Heading back Monday to pick up our first leaf!
Details:
2017 sv- gun metallic-black interior
List price- $35455
Dealer rebates- $5500
Other Rebates: city of Boulder, and the biggest game changer is as of 1/1/17 the new Colorado law that lets the dealer have the $2500 directly from the state EV rebate. This takes the $2500 directly off the top of the lease.
These all together = 12,700
Cap cost=17,255
24 month lease
With 0 down and taxes rolled into the monthly payment will be $250.

I emailed and went to 4 different dealers . Boulder Nissan was in a different level all together. They are knowledgeable and many of them drive Leafs.
All the other Denver area dealers basically had no clue how the rebate was changing 1/1/17 and were arguing with me. I even tried to get a deal on a couple left over 16's to buy outright if they could work a smoking deal. None seemed to want to get rid of them. If your in the market I recommend Boulder Nissan for a lease.
Anyhow really looking forward to picking up our first EV tomorrow!

Oils4AsphaultOnly
Gold Member
Posts: 275
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:09 pm
Delivery Date: 20 Nov 2016
Leaf Number: 313890
Location: Arcadia, CA

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:18 pm

powersurge wrote:So if you bought the car after the lease, your total cost (without taxes) would be 20,600 for a 33,000 car. I never leased, so I don't know if there are more charges.

That is very similar to what I got for my 24kwh S. The benefit I got is that I got a monthly payment of $300 for 6 years (72 months) at 0% financing. If you lease, you would have to cough up 9100 dollars at the end of your lease in cash...

I personally like the idea of buying because no one can take the car out of my hands... Remember the EV!??


Hi powersurge,

Sorry for not replying sooner (too busy enjoying the holidays with my leaf! - story for another time).

Anyway, your $20,600 buyout number is missing some details. There's also a $2500 state rebate that I had to apply for on my own, and $395 lease termination fee, and 9.5% sales tax ($864.50) on the residual value. So if there weren't any further incentives, my out of pocket to buyout the leaf would be: $21,860 - 2500 == $19,360 (inclusive of all taxes and fees)

Now the icing on the cake will come in spring of 2019. If used values of the old leaf dropped as quickly as the 2013's did, then I expect to receive a buyout offer from NMAC (just like I did for my 2013 leaf). But unlike last year, I won't be hemming and hawing to take the offer!! I'm hoping for ~$5000 off to bring it inline with last year's offer. So all in all, it's better to lease a leaf and buy it out, than to purchase it outright. One of the few cases where leasing is better.

Cheers!
[2013 leaf traded for 2016 leaf S30:
build date: Sep '16 :: purchased: Nov '16
1 May 2017 - 7300 miles & 363 GIDs
6 Sep 2017 - 13k miles & 359 GIDs
26 Oct 2017 - 15.5k miles & 344 GIDs
26 Nov 2017 - 17.1k miles & 332 GIDs]

kansas
Posts: 3
Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:12 am
Delivery Date: 19 Jan 2017
Leaf Number: 302554

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:42 am

Color/trim: 2017 Black SV
Accessories: cargo cover

Total MSRP+destination charge: $35700
Total quote/price accepted: $24000/ this includes tax and fees
Total discount (or markup): $13000 - including $10000 Nissan rebate
Purchase or lease?: purchase

Actual order date: bought off the lot Jan 19, 2017

Dealer: Zimbrick Nissan, Madison, WI


Plans for home charging: Class 2 charger/$500 rebate from Alliant Energy (utility company)

Expect to receive $7500 tax credit from federal government when I get my 2017 tax return.

jjeff
Posts: 1486
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:10 am
Delivery Date: 13 Jul 2014
Leaf Number: 422121
Location: MSP MN

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:51 pm

kansas wrote:Color/trim: 2017 Black SV
Accessories: cargo cover

Total MSRP+destination charge: $35700
Total quote/price accepted: $24000/ this includes tax and fees
Total discount (or markup): $13000 - including $10000 Nissan rebate
Purchase or lease?: purchase

Actual order date: bought off the lot Jan 19, 2017

Dealer: Zimbrick Nissan, Madison, WI


Plans for home charging: Class 2 charger/$500 rebate from Alliant Energy (utility company)

Expect to receive $7500 tax credit from federal government when I get my 2017 tax return.

Sounds like a decent deal for a 30Kwh SV Leaf :) or $16.5k if you get the full $7500. Note to get the max credit you have to have at least a $7500 tax liability(or what you owe) so because of this I only got ~$6k, which still isn't bad. I figured if I had got the full credit my '13S would have cost ~$20k and I only have the S with the 24Kwh battery. Sure you could have saved even more looking for a used Leaf but there is some satisfaction in purchasing a new vehicle, for sure you know how its been driven :)
2012 SL purchased used 2/'16
2013 S w/QC purchased new
Juicebox Premium 60a L1/L2 EVSE, Ebusbar 16a L1/L2 EVSE
'12 EVSEupgrade'd 20a L1/L2 EVSE, '13 EVSEupgrade'd adjustable 6-20a L2, 6-13a L1 EVSE
Zencar 13, 20, 30a L1/L2 portable EVSE
GE Durastation 30a

phish4me
Posts: 6
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:43 pm
Delivery Date: 27 Jan 2017
Leaf Number: 311781

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:38 am

Color/trim: 2016 Gun Metallic/Black Interior SV
Accessories: Premium Pacakge (Bose & 360 camera), splash guards, floor mats and holographic kickplates

Total MSRP+destination charge: $37,120
Total quote/price accepted: $32,023 (not including tax & tag) - mo payment = $285 w/ $2,285 down
Total discount (or markup): $12,427
Purchase or lease?: lease (36 mo/15k miles)
Residual value: $10,765

Actual order date: bought off the lot Jan 27, 2017

Dealer: McNeil Nissan - North Wilksboro, NC


Plans for home charging: L1 that came with vehicle right now - waiting for ClipperCreek (HCS-40P) L2 charger purchased off Amazon - $589

Expect to receive $7500 tax credit from federal government when I get my 2017 tax return. Had to change my W2 allowances but have the rest of 2017 to owe at least $7,500 and hopefully not a penny more! :)

PS - NC peeps looking to purchase - there is a $10K incentive from 'Plug-In NC' right now till end of March or fund run out. That residual value was just too much of a gamble for me - that and I'm sure the tech will be dramatically different in 3 years!

2/8/2017 Edit - Added Residual value. Carved a slice of humble pie for not knowing tax credit stayed with leasing company. Made appointment on calendar to notify payroll to reverse that W2 allowance change. Poured 16oz IPA from Triple C Brewing Co and patted self on back for best I could do with what I had to work with. Yea me. :?
2/8/2017 Edit - Modified Edit date above to reflect current year. Took note of ABV on Triple C.
Last edited by phish4me on Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:18 pm, edited 2 times in total.
2016 Gun Metallic/Black interior SV w/ Premium Package, floor mats, splash guards & holographic kick plates

Garba
Posts: 20
Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:38 am
Delivery Date: 10 Dec 2015
Location: Santa Clara, CA

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:57 pm

Congrats!

Tax credit from the federal government is only when you purchase but you have leased the vehicle.
Santa Clara, CA
2015 Leaf S

LeftieBiker
Posts: 7369
Joined: Wed May 22, 2013 3:17 am
Delivery Date: 31 May 2013
Location: Upstate New York, US

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:34 pm

What is the residual on that 2016 SV lease?
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

The most offensive, tasteless phrase in use here is "Pulled the trigger." I no longer respond to posts that use it.

Oils4AsphaultOnly
Gold Member
Posts: 275
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:09 pm
Delivery Date: 20 Nov 2016
Leaf Number: 313890
Location: Arcadia, CA

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:15 pm

phish4me wrote:Color/trim: 2016 Gun Metallic/Black Interior SV
Accessories: Premium Pacakge (Bose & 360 camera), splash guards, floor mats and holographic kickplates

Total MSRP+destination charge: $37,120
Total quote/price accepted: $32,023 (not including tax & tag) - mo payment = $285 w/ $2,285 down
Total discount (or markup): $12,427
Purchase or lease?: lease (36 mo/15k miles)

Actual order date: bought off the lot Jan 27, 2017

Dealer: McNeil Nissan - North Wilksboro, NC


Plans for home charging: L1 that came with vehicle right now - waiting for ClipperCreek (HCS-40P) L2 charger purchased off Amazon - $589

Expect to receive $7500 tax credit from federal government when I get my 2017 tax return. Had to change my W2 allowances but have the rest of 2017 to owe at least $7,500 and hopefully not a penny more! :)

PS - NC peeps looking to purchase - there is a $10K incentive from 'Plug-In NC' right now till end of March or fund run out. That residual value was just too much of a gamble for me - that and I'm sure the tech will be dramatically different in 3 years!


As garba said, the tax credit goes to you only if you _purchase_ it. If you lease the vehicle, the tax credit goes to the leasing company, and your purchase price (or capital cost) was supposed to be discounted by that $7500.

Since your per month payment of $285 seems about right for 15k miles/year, I'm guessing your accepted price number is off. What was the residual (end of lease purchase price)?
[2013 leaf traded for 2016 leaf S30:
build date: Sep '16 :: purchased: Nov '16
1 May 2017 - 7300 miles & 363 GIDs
6 Sep 2017 - 13k miles & 359 GIDs
26 Oct 2017 - 15.5k miles & 344 GIDs
26 Nov 2017 - 17.1k miles & 332 GIDs]

dnatek
Posts: 7
Joined: Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:05 pm
Delivery Date: 31 Jan 2017
Leaf Number: 300421
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: Post Your Order Details Here

Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:09 am

Here is my lease deal on 1/31/17 in the San Diego area:
2017 Leaf S30 + Quick Charge + floor mats + splash guards, Gun Metallic
MSRP: $33,705
Agreed upon value: $28,075 ($5630 off MSRP)
Cap cost reduction: $12,915.86
Cap cost, adjusted: $15,754.14
Residual: $9100.35
Rebates: $14,500 (includes $2500 from CA)
Total drive off: $2500 (effect $0 from CA rebate)
Monthly payment base: $184.83
Total monthly payment (tax, title, license): $199.96

12,000 miles, 36 months

I previously had and SV but thought I'd rather have an extra ~$50/mo and drop down to the S.

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