alden
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Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:31 am
Delivery Date: 29 Oct 2014
Leaf Number: 308513
Location: Houston, TX

Newbie w/high mileage 2015 S w/QC

Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:09 am

A few weeks ago I purchased a 2015 Leaf S with QuickCharge that now has 47,500 miles! Here are the LeafSpy Lite (v0.30.22) battery stats that I pulled off of it, and I'm wondering if it is typical of what others have seen in terms of battery degradation:

AHr 53.35
SOH 85%
Hx 77.69%
16 QCs
1773 L1/L2's
Temps are 62.4 to 64.2 F

I suspect that this is one of the highest mileage 2015 Leafs out there at the moment. It lived in Atlanta, Georgia before I purchased it.

BTW, I see the Leaf's range as a nice upgrade from my previous vehicle - a 2012 Mitsubishi iMiev SE that only had 62 miles of EPA range and a 15 Amp 240V charger. The ONLY downside to the Leaf is storage capability with the seats down - that little Mitsubishi could haul a CRAZY amount with the seats folded down in addition to the simplicity of rear wheel drive with the iMiev. However, I'm more than happy to trade that for 22 miles additional range, 30 Amp 240V charging (w/QC), heated seats throughout (including the seatback), backup camera, widespread dealer coverage, steering wheel controls, auto climate control, and better stereo - even if the Leaf has high miles and is black (not my favorite car color).

alden
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:31 am
Delivery Date: 29 Oct 2014
Leaf Number: 308513
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Newbie w/high mileage 2015 S w/QC

Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:11 am

I should mention that it went into service Oct 29, 2014 and the Nissan Dealer locally did an annual battery maintenance inspection a week ago and rated the battery 5/5 stars.

electromotive
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Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:57 am
Delivery Date: 16 Jun 2011
Leaf Number: 003243

Re: Newbie w/high mileage 2015 S w/QC

Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:44 am

Hello. I don't wish to harsh your buzz, but what motivated you to by this particular LEAF?
You have zero chance of even possibly receiving a replacement under the degradation warranty.
Nissan dealers, by and large, are crooks. As is Nissan corporate.
Battery maintenance inspection means nothing.
You are stuck now. Your only recourse is to baby the battery forever and prolong it's usable life.
2015s can be found for less than $10K in the SF Bay Area. With 1/2 as many miles.
I mean no offense. You now need to educate future LEAF buyers.
The only way to acquire a new LEAF is via a great lease offer.
2011s are $5K in California.
Good luck.

alden
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:31 am
Delivery Date: 29 Oct 2014
Leaf Number: 308513
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Newbie w/high mileage 2015 S w/QC

Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:48 am

No offense taken. I bought it for $5.5k. It was important to get a lizard battery as I'm in a hot climate - thus my insistence on a 2015.

BillHolz
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Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:32 am
Delivery Date: 07 May 2016
Leaf Number: 322345
Location: Norfolk, VA

Re: Newbie w/high mileage 2015 S w/QC

Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:06 am

If it fits your needs with sufficient margin to spare for future battery degradation, you have a great car for a great price. I got my 2015SV back in May 2016 with it's warranty start being April 2016. I have over 13K miles on it now and still think it is a great car. At my current rate of about 300 miles a week, I will be reaching my warranty mileage limits long before the time limits.
2015 SV no QC

Nagorak
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Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:12 pm
Delivery Date: 03 Jan 2017
Leaf Number: 417128

Re: Newbie w/high mileage 2015 S w/QC

Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:35 pm

For that price I would have bought it too. Probably it will still be fine in 5 years for most purposes, but even if the car is trash after 3 years, you're still no worse off than if you leased a new vehicle. Not to mention, you can theoretically get the battery replaced at some point, and the price of the replacement should keep going down.

SageBrush
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Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:28 am
Delivery Date: 13 Feb 2017
Location: Colorado

Re: Newbie w/high mileage 2015 S w/QC

Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:48 pm

alden wrote: the Nissan Dealer locally did an annual battery maintenance inspection a week ago and rated the battery 5/5 stars.

I'm sure they did

Sounds like you have about 80% of new battery capacity, and I doubt the battery is going to like Houston any more than Atlanta. I hope your use leaves room for additional range loss. It's interesting to surmise that the prior owner charged twice daily for the most part based on the LEAFSpy data over two years. I wonder if daytime charging in the Atlanta heat was a bad idea, and I'm convinced that the default charge to 100% is bad practice.
Last edited by SageBrush on Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

Foschas
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Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:35 pm
Delivery Date: 31 Jul 2015
Leaf Number: 320277
Location: Mass

Re: Newbie w/high mileage 2015 S w/QC

Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:58 pm

alden wrote:No offense taken. I bought it for $5.5k. It was important to get a lizard battery as I'm in a hot climate - thus my insistence on a 2015.



Wow, great deal. Congrats!

Reddy
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Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:09 pm
Delivery Date: 18 Aug 2011
Leaf Number: 006828
Location: Pasco, WA

Re: Newbie w/high mileage 2015 S w/QC

Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:30 pm

alden wrote:No offense taken. I bought it for $5.5k. It was important to get a lizard battery as I'm in a hot climate - thus my insistence on a 2015.
great deal! You will get more miles per dollar value than anyone! Drive it like you stole it (because you practically did)!
Reddy
2011 SL; 9 bar, 46.44 AHr; 40,067 mi; rcv'd Aug 18, 2011
Long: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... al#p226115"
Cold: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p243033"

alden
Posts: 5
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:31 am
Delivery Date: 29 Oct 2014
Leaf Number: 308513
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Newbie w/high mileage 2015 S w/QC

Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:05 am

great deal! You will get more miles per dollar value than anyone! Drive it like you stole it (because you practically did)!


You've exactly captured my motivation for buying it - buy a 2015 as cheaply as possible and drive - drive - drive it.

I appreciate the concurrence that others think I got a good deal, too. In terms of battery capacity, I'm normally seeing 88-90 miles on the rangeometer that results in ~80 miles of real range for me. My old Mitsubishi couldn't come close to this, so I'm pleased - even if that 80 miles represents 80-85% of what I could have gotten with a pristine battery. I know, I know, it's pretty unusual to see 80 miles of real range as an upgrade - but for me (coming from Mitsu iMiev) - it is!

Despite living in Houston, I'll be cycling the battery much less than the previous owner, keeping it in a garage at home & work, so my hope is that future battery degradation due to heat and cycles will be minimized.

I also found it curious that the previous owner plugged it in every 26.5 miles of driving (on average). I suppose maybe if you're going to drive 24k miles/year you've gotta have a lot of range always on the ready, but that definitely seems excessive charging from my experience.

I've now outfitted the car with a Vantrue N1 dashcam (transferred from the Mitsu) and a new-to-me iottie phone holder: ready to roll!

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