hyperionmark
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Battery capacity question (with picture)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:22 pm

So this is denoting that I have a full 12 bars left? (although I would assume it's close to losing the first bar)

Is that normal for a 2013 S that was built in January of that year?

All that info being said, if everything else looks great on the car...is $7,000 a pretty decent deal?

Thanks!

https://goo.gl/photos/T7qMGNncpwZWFKrv5

LeftieBiker
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:28 pm

I'm counting 12 bars, although the photo is a little blurry. That would be outstanding for an early build 2013. Cold climate?
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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hyperionmark
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:57 pm

I believe Carfax said it came from St. Louis. So...somewhat warmer midwest town, but definitely not deep south.

LeftieBiker
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:10 pm

Hmmmm... Generally, early build 2013 Leafs lose bars fast. There have been a few exceptions in genuinely cold or cool climates, but this would be the first one I've seen from a warmer area with 12 bars at that age and mileage. I'd worry about a BMS reset having been done, unless it was kept in an air-conditioned garage. Definitely run LeafSpy on it before buying.
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hyperionmark
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:23 pm

I doubt this place will let me. They didn't have a clue what I was talking about when I even mentioned battery degradation. Just a small used car place in the midwest that rarely even sees EV's.

hyperionmark
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:36 pm

If the BMS was reset, would it still show that range (in terms of miles)? Temps have been in the 30's here (F).

If I have no way of doing the Leaf Spy thing, can we just drive it on a normal commute and see what type of range we are getting (if they actually let us have it to test for that long)?

LeftieBiker
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:52 pm

If the car was driven gently, at low speeds, after a reset, it could still show that much estimated range. At best I think this will shortly be an 11 bar car. At worst, the BMS was reset and it has about 10. You could try doing a range test, I guess, but I'd be worried.
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hyperionmark
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:02 pm

The geniuses at this shop wouldn't have a clue how to do a BMS. And it was bought at auction. I doubt anyone reset it before the auction.

No offense, but I'd love to hear from a few others to see if others are as worried as you are.

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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:29 pm

You should definitely run Leaf Spy before hand. Who cares if they let you or not, just take it for a test drive and stick the OBD adapter in when they're not around. Not worth it to take a risk when you can know 100% for sure the condition of the battery.
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hyperionmark
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:35 pm

What would I even look for on Leaf Spy?

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