hyperionmark
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:16 pm

I appreciate all the responses, guys! I definitely know what to look for when I go to the dealer.

At this point I am likely going to drive up to Wayzata and purchase one there. Then will get a car hauler from uhaul and tow it home on that (all 4 wheels off the ground obviously). Thoughts on this scenario? Advice?

Firetruck41
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Leaf Number: 408264
Location: SW Washington State

Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:21 pm

hyperionmark wrote:I appreciate all the responses, guys! I definitely know what to look for when I go to the dealer.

At this point I am likely going to drive up to Wayzata and purchase one there. Then will get a car hauler from uhaul and tow it home on that (all 4 wheels off the ground obviously). Thoughts on this scenario? Advice?

That's what I did, bought my Leaf in Tacoma WA, towed it on a uhaul car hauler about 140 miles home to the Portland area.
8/2015- New to me 12bar 2013 SV w/QC package and 37k miles

SageBrush
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Location: Colorado

Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:19 pm

hyperionmark wrote:I appreciate all the responses, guys! I definitely know what to look for when I go to the dealer.

At this point I am likely going to drive up to Wayzata and purchase one there. Then will get a car hauler from uhaul and tow it home on that (all 4 wheels off the ground obviously). Thoughts on this scenario? Advice?

I towed my LEAF home on a Uhaul dolly (front wheels off the ground.) Worked great. Be sure to release the brakes ;-)

If you start the rental near your home so that you return at the same place it is ~ $50
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:21 am

hyperionmark wrote:So this is denoting that I have a full 12 bars left? (although I would assume it's close to losing the first bar)

Is that normal for a 2013 S that was built in January of that year?

All that info being said, if everything else looks great on the car...is $7,000 a pretty decent deal?

Thanks!

https://goo.gl/photos/T7qMGNncpwZWFKrv5


you could have 15% degradation and still have 12 bars. Without LEAF Spy, you really don't know what you are getting. I would reach out to your local LEAF group for someone who will plug theirs in to check your car. Even if you have to throw him a 20, its well worth knowing what you are buying!
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 (build 10/2016)"low water marks" 26,100.2 miles.363GID Ahr 79.55Hx95.35%kwh28.1QCs227,L2's 237
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:22 am

hyperionmark wrote:I doubt this place will let me. They didn't have a clue what I was talking about when I even mentioned battery degradation. Just a small used car place in the midwest that rarely even sees EV's.


then move on. as soon as they see you leaving, they will change their minds
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 (build 10/2016)"low water marks" 26,100.2 miles.363GID Ahr 79.55Hx95.35%kwh28.1QCs227,L2's 237
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SageBrush
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:32 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
hyperionmark wrote:I doubt this place will let me. They didn't have a clue what I was talking about when I even mentioned battery degradation. Just a small used car place in the midwest that rarely even sees EV's.


then move on. as soon as they see you leaving, they will change their minds
I agree; buying a used Leaf without a LeafSpy report sounds like a bad idea. Saying that you are going to check the battery might confuse the small dealership, but a customer should be able to demand and electronic health check through the OBDD port without confusing anybody. The port as been around forever, it is used by every mechanic I have ever met, and nowadays an OBD check is used as a smog check.

If the dealership is playing dumb or coy then DEFINITELY move on.
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

SageBrush
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:33 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
hyperionmark wrote:I doubt this place will let me. They didn't have a clue what I was talking about when I even mentioned battery degradation. Just a small used car place in the midwest that rarely even sees EV's.


then move on. as soon as they see you leaving, they will change their minds
I agree; buying a used Leaf without a LeafSpy report sounds like a bad idea. Saying that you are going to check the battery might confuse the small dealership, but a customer should be able to demand an electronic health check or the right to pull diagnostic codes through the OBDD port without confusing anybody. The port has been around forever, it is used by every mechanic I have ever met, and nowadays an OBD check is used as a smog check.

If the dealership is playing dumb or coy then DEFINITELY move on
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

Durandal
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:41 am

Any place that won't let you plug an ODB reader up to a car to read codes, etc is a place you should never buy from.
Pulled the trigger on going EV on 10/2016 with a 2012 Leaf, and a Tesla Model 3 reservation expected to receive in June 2018.

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:44 am

SageBrush wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
hyperionmark wrote:I doubt this place will let me. They didn't have a clue what I was talking about when I even mentioned battery degradation. Just a small used car place in the midwest that rarely even sees EV's.


then move on. as soon as they see you leaving, they will change their minds
I agree; buying a used Leaf without a LeafSpy report sounds like a bad idea. Saying that you are going to check the battery might confuse the small dealership, but a customer should be able to demand and electronic health check through the OBDD port without confusing anybody. The port as been around forever, it is used by every mechanic I have ever met, and nowadays an OBD check is used as a smog check.

If the dealership is playing dumb or coy then DEFINITELY move on.



FYI; in my 2 LEAFs, it took all of 20 seconds to plug in the OBD and launch LEAF Spy. better to simply do it without asking. you will have your reading before they even realize what you are doing... :)
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 (build 10/2016)"low water marks" 26,100.2 miles.363GID Ahr 79.55Hx95.35%kwh28.1QCs227,L2's 237
My Blog; http://daveinolywa.blogspot.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

SageBrush
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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:50 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
SageBrush wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
then move on. as soon as they see you leaving, they will change their minds
I agree; buying a used Leaf without a LeafSpy report sounds like a bad idea. Saying that you are going to check the battery might confuse the small dealership, but a customer should be able to demand and electronic health check through the OBDD port without confusing anybody. The port as been around forever, it is used by every mechanic I have ever met, and nowadays an OBD check is used as a smog check.

If the dealership is playing dumb or coy then DEFINITELY move on.



FYI; in my 2 LEAFs, it took all of 20 seconds to plug in the OBD and launch LEAF Spy. better to simply do it without asking. you will have your reading before they even realize what you are doing... :)

Absolutely. Go for a test drive without the salesman.
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

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