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Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:16 am
by powersurge
They cannot refuse you... Just say you are plugging in yours OBDII to check for error codes.... They don't have to know what data you are seeing???

Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:53 pm
by bazzmclean
I need help deciphering a battery report before purchasing a 2014 Leaf SV Manufactured 03/14 PLEASE :)

AHr= 57.62 SOH = 88% 384.75V Hx=86.83%

39,552 KM

Car was a lease in Georgia now for sale Victoria British Columbia,

Thanks

Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:58 pm
by mljhnr
hyperionmark wrote:I appreciate all the responses, guys! I definitely know what to look for when I go to the dealer.

At this point I am likely going to drive up to Wayzata and purchase one there. Then will get a car hauler from uhaul and tow it home on that (all 4 wheels off the ground obviously). Thoughts on this scenario? Advice?


Ha, that's what I did about 4 weeks ago. Bought mine from Wayzata Nissan and dolly'd it home to Eau Claire, WI. Worked well except for one thing. I paid for the car and then drove to get the dolly from uhaul in Plymouth. The dealership was closed when I got back, although I knew that would happen. The lot was snow covered and with snow on the wheels I had a hard time getting the front wheels up the dolly ramps as they kept slipping. I had to take a bit of a nervous run at the dolly to get enough momentum to get on the dolly.

My car is a 2013 SV with 30k mi. Still have all 12 bars. My leafspy shows Ahr 60.25 with SOH 92%. I paid 8.5k.

Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:02 pm
by SageBrush
bazzmclean wrote:I need help deciphering a battery report before purchasing a 2014 Leaf SV Manufactured 03/14 PLEASE :)

AHr= 57.62 SOH = 88% 384.75V Hx=86.83%

39,552 KM

Car was a lease in Georgia now for sale Victoria British Columbia,

Thanks
About 12% of a new car battery capacity is no longer available

Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:05 pm
by DaveinOlyWA
SageBrush wrote:
bazzmclean wrote:I need help deciphering a battery report before purchasing a 2014 Leaf SV Manufactured 03/14 PLEASE :)

AHr= 57.62 SOH = 88% 384.75V Hx=86.83%

39,552 KM

Car was a lease in Georgia now for sale Victoria British Columbia,

Thanks
About 12% of a new car battery amount is no longer available


actually about 14½% new pack; 67.36 ahr

Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:37 pm
by bazzmclean
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
SageBrush wrote:
bazzmclean wrote:I need help deciphering a battery report before purchasing a 2014 Leaf SV Manufactured 03/14 PLEASE :)

AHr= 57.62 SOH = 88% 384.75V Hx=86.83%

39,552 KM

Car was a lease in Georgia now for sale Victoria British Columbia,

Thanks
About 12% of a new car battery amount is no longer available


actually about 14½% new pack; 67.36 ahr


IS this a fairly common number for a 2014?

Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:43 pm
by DaveinOlyWA
bazzmclean wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
SageBrush wrote:About 12% of a new car battery amount is no longer available


actually about 14½% new pack; 67.36 ahr


IS this a fairly common number for a 2014?


not sure there is such a thing. problem with coming from a hot area is that its easy to increase degradation if charging/storage/parking of car is not handled well. I know several 2014's and 2013's that have a third of the degradation seen here but were also in cooler climates.

Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:49 pm
by bazzmclean
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
bazzmclean wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
actually about 14½% new pack; 67.36 ahr


IS this a fairly common number for a 2014?


not sure there is such a thing. problem with coming from a hot area is that its easy to increase degradation if charging/storage/parking of car is not handled well. I know several 2014's and 2013's that have a third of the degradation seen here but were also in cooler climates.


I see thank you. I guess what worries me is Georgia is pretty warm and its a black car so if it was parked outside all the time it would have been kept at a hot temperature which would explain the degradation.

Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:00 pm
by DaveinOlyWA
bazzmclean wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
bazzmclean wrote:
IS this a fairly common number for a 2014?


not sure there is such a thing. problem with coming from a hot area is that its easy to increase degradation if charging/storage/parking of car is not handled well. I know several 2014's and 2013's that have a third of the degradation seen here but were also in cooler climates.


I see thank you. I guess what worries me is Georgia is pretty warm and its a black car so if it was parked outside all the time it would have been kept at a hot temperature which would explain the degradation.


yeah, there is little doubt there was increased degradation due to heat. It is possible that numbers are depressed from lack of driving but probably no more than 2-3 points. There is a guy with over 80,000 miles on his 2013 LEAF in WA and he claims about 5% loss of range so far so climate makes a huge difference

Re: Battery capacity question (with picture)

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:32 pm
by bazzmclean
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
bazzmclean wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
not sure there is such a thing. problem with coming from a hot area is that its easy to increase degradation if charging/storage/parking of car is not handled well. I know several 2014's and 2013's that have a third of the degradation seen here but were also in cooler climates.


I see thank you. I guess what worries me is Georgia is pretty warm and its a black car so if it was parked outside all the time it would have been kept at a hot temperature which would explain the degradation.


yeah, there is little doubt there was increased degradation due to heat. It is possible that numbers are depressed from lack of driving but probably no more than 2-3 points. There is a guy with over 80,000 miles on his 2013 LEAF in WA and he claims about 5% loss of range so far so climate makes a huge difference


Look what I found out on used Leafs: Many older cars will have just 9 or 10 bars showing on the battery meter. If you find an older LEAF that still shows 12 bars on the battery meter, be suspicious. Rumors are beginning to surface that unscrupulous dealers have figured out how to trick the meter so it reads 12 bars even on old cars with weak batteries. Allegedly, the car will continue to show 12 bars for a few weeks until the software catches up with reality. Then bars will start disappearing at a rapid rate and you will be driving a LEAF with half the range it should have.