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Test Driving 2011 SL - Warranty Confusion at 8 Bars

Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:07 am

Hi, I am currently test driving a 2011 Leaf SL with 38,800 miles on it from Carvana. They offer a 7 day test drive and I have to decide today or tomorrow if I am keeping the car. It is showing 8 bars of battery capacity and I initially thought is was too late for the 5 year warranty (thinking it would have expired in 2016). However, the carfax and the Nissan paperwork both show the car being sold on 8/31/2012, with the warranty valid until 8/31/2017. Yesterday I took it to a local Nissan dealership where they performed a battery test, the invoice states "Notify customer the battery life is within the expectable drop amount for this vehicle. If it drops more return for further diagnosis. The battery usage report will optimize battery life if followed to 5 stars in all categories. See attached for details." I have included images below. I am confused because on the Nissan website (https://www.nissanusa.com/electric-cars ... e/battery/) I have seen the text "the Nissan LEAF® Lithium-ion battery is also warranted against capacity loss below nine bars of capacity as shown on the vehicle’s battery capacity level gauge", is this only for more recent year cars?

This car would cost around $7,000. I charged it to 100% and got 60 miles of range with that being 53 city and 7 highway and no climate control, I stopped when the low battery warning came on and it was showing 8 miles of range remaining. My commute is only 7 miles each way and my office has free charging stations available, so I think this car would work, but it would be great with a new battery. The dealership also has 3 leafs that are 2015 "s" models with around 25,000 miles, they are all from Georgia and priced around $10,000, I am trying to figure out if that would be a better way to go. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Test Driving 2011 SL - Warranty Confusion at 8 Bars

Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:56 am

Call 800-no gas EV with the vin and confirm before buying. Also, confirm that it's really 8 bars (when charged to full, you should see four bar overhang. That said, your low mileage drive will be fine even with the degradation, but get the new battery if you can for the better regeneration
Reddy
2011 SL; 9 bar, 46.44 AHr; 40,067 mi; rcv'd Aug 18, 2011
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Re: Test Driving 2011 SL - Warranty Confusion at 8 Bars

Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:57 am

It is too expensive for a 2011 nissan leaf, yo7 can do much better than this by shopping local Craigslist or autotrader.com or cargurus.com with your local zipcode. Last week I got 2015 leaf S with quick charge option with 15000 miles for $8000.

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Re: Test Driving 2011 SL - Warranty Confusion at 8 Bars

Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:06 am

Sounds like a no-brainer to me; I would buy it before someone else figures out what a good deal it is.
You get a 2011 Leaf (built in Japan) with a 2015 (lizard) battery!
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Re: Test Driving 2011 SL - Warranty Confusion at 8 Bars

Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:40 am

Stanton wrote:Sounds like a no-brainer to me; I would buy it before someone else figures out what a good deal it is.
You get a 2011 Leaf (built in Japan) with a 2015 (lizard) battery!


Are you saying that this 2011 is a good deal because this car AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFIES for a new battery? Yes, if he could get a new battery that would be worth $7K. But we are not sure until it actually happens and he tries to collect on the battery guarantee...

I would personally get a 2015 with low miles like another post here.

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Re: Test Driving 2011 SL - Warranty Confusion at 8 Bars

Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:44 am

powersurge wrote:
Stanton wrote:Sounds like a no-brainer to me; I would buy it before someone else figures out what a good deal it is.
You get a 2011 Leaf (built in Japan) with a 2015 (lizard) battery!


Are you saying that this 2011 is a good deal because this car AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFIES for a new battery? Yes, if he could get a new battery that would be worth $7K. But we are not sure until it actually happens and he tries to collect on the battery guarantee...


Yes: was that not clear?
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12v LiFePO4 battery & FIAMM 74100 horns
Wet Okole seat covers (front)
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LetsGoToMarsNow
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Re: Test Driving 2011 SL - Warranty Confusion at 8 Bars

Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:05 pm

This is a picture of the dash at 100% charged:

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Re: Test Driving 2011 SL - Warranty Confusion at 8 Bars

Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:19 pm

Failing something like the previous owner having opted out of the battery settlement, or the in service date being earlier than thought, that car qualifies for a free pack.
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Re: Test Driving 2011 SL - Warranty Confusion at 8 Bars

Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:21 pm

I called the (877) NO GAS EV phone number and talked with a nice gentleman who looked up the VIN and stated it would be under warranty until 8/31/2017. He recommended going to a different dealership, and he added that the battery test could have an approximately $150 cost. (In the event that the battery would need to be replaced he said this would be waived). The first dealership I went to yesterday did not have a cost for the battery test, does anyone have any experience getting their battery inspected? Has anyone had a hard time getting a dealership to replace a battery? The service technician I spoke with said he had worked there since they came out with the Leaf and that he had changed 2 batteries over the past 6 years. The good news is I now have a case number and point of contact with Nissan, the bad news is my test driving period ends at 5pm tomorrow (3/3/17) and I have to decide if I am keeping this car or returning it to Carvana. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
2011 Nissan Leaf SL in Silver, replaced battery under warranty in April 2017 at 39K miles, now at 44K miles.

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Re: Test Driving 2011 SL - Warranty Confusion at 8 Bars

Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:34 pm

Sounds like a no brainer to me. Assuming the car is clean otherwise, you're getting a low mileage car and a brand new battery. I'd pick it up. You can try making a lower offer just to see it they'll bite, but you should go for it. These replacements are pretty straightforward. Some folks have had resistance at first, but calling in as you did usually breaks the logjam.
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