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Re: Newbie: Range Questions 34 mile one way commute

Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:28 pm

BillHolz wrote:As to charging at work by just plugging into an available wall outlet. That will work if it does not require your cord to cross any sidewalk or other path that people will be walking on. The trip hazard is far more the objection that facility managers will have rather than any concern for the small amount of power you will be using.

Good point Bill!

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Re: Newbie: Range Questions 34 mile one way commute

Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:30 pm

GerryAZ wrote:The 2012 looks nice in the pictures and should give you a good introduction to EVs. If you try to commute with it, you will need 120-volt charging at work (especially in cold weather) and 240-volt charging at home. You can probably make the round trip when it is warm until the battery starts to deteriorate if it still has low rolling resistance tires and they are inflated to at least 40 psi. The electric parking brake is nice--I miss it on my 2015 and have already had the foot pedal parking brake fixed/adjusted twice under warranty. Someone mentioned that the ones with electric parking brake cannot be pushed if the traction battery is depleted, but that is not correct.



Once I get the car, I'm going to make a couple dry runs to see how things go. Tomorrow I'm heading to the hospital in my gasser to "check" the facility out for charging options.

What low resistance tires do you recommend?

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Re: Newbie: Range Questions 34 mile one way commute

Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:48 pm

Bridgestone Ecopias were original equipment in 2011/2012 and are about the best for efficiency, but the sidewalls are thin so they may be more susceptible to damage. The Ecopias work much better in the rain than the Michelin Energy Saver A/S tires that came on my 2015. I put Continental sport tires on after the Energy Savers wore out and lost about 15% in highway range (probably 10% in stop/go driving), but the car handles much better and they are great in the rain. I had Michelin MXM4s after the Ecopias wore out on the 2011 and lost about 10% of range. They were much better tires than the Energy Savers. If the MXM4s had been in stock, I might have purchased them instead of the Continentals for the 2015.
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Re: Newbie: Range Questions 34 mile one way commute

Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:18 pm

Okay, just a quick update. I drove to the IHS facility I will be working at today. Talked with the maintenance department and they gave me a thumbs up on using. 110v outlet near the maintenance dept building. Also found another option: they have on campus RV hookups. If I brought a charger (240v L2), they would wire it in and charge me $40 a month. Either way, sounds like I'm golden.

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Re: Newbie: Range Questions 34 mile one way commute

Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:56 pm

While $40/mo is a bit more than the cost of electricity, it's cheap insurance for being denied necessary charging. Take it and enjoy the less expensive 24 KWh Leaf, plus never needing to worry. Oh, BTW, THANKS for driving electric!
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Re: Newbie: Range Questions 34 mile one way commute

Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:01 pm

Congrats. Another option may be to provide Them an L1 station to wire to a 20amp breaker. More convenient than using your own evse.

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Re: Newbie: Range Questions 34 mile one way commute

Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:15 pm

Reddy wrote:While $40/mo is a bit more than the cost of electricity, it's cheap insurance for being denied necessary charging. Take it and enjoy the less expensive 24 KWh Leaf, plus never needing to worry. Oh, BTW, THANKS for driving electric!



I agree!! Cheap insurance!

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Re: Newbie: Range Questions 34 mile one way commute

Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:19 pm

The 2012 SL will work great for you with L2 charging at both ends if you get it. The price of $40 per month is quite reasonable for daytime power and by paying for the power you avoid the perception other employees may have of you getting something for free. You probably need an EVSE that is UL Listed or at least ETL Certified so I suggest a Clipper Creek commercial unit. I can offer some detailed recommendations based on the car you get and the circuit capacity available at the facility if you want to send me a PM.
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Re: Newbie: Range Questions 34 mile one way commute

Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:23 pm

GerryAZ wrote:The 2012 SL will work great for you with L2 charging at both ends if you get it. The price of $40 per month is quite reasonable for daytime power and by paying for the power you avoid the perception other employees may have of you getting something for free. You probably need an EVSE that is UL Listed or at least ETL Certified so I suggest a Clipper Creek commercial unit. I can offer some detailed recommendations based on the car you get and the circuit capacity available at the facility if you want to send me a PM.



I'll reach out to you when I get to that point. Thx

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Re: Newbie: Range Questions 34 mile one way commute

Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:34 pm

GerryAZ wrote:Bridgestone Ecopias were original equipment in 2011/2012 and are about the best for efficiency, but the sidewalls are thin so they may be more susceptible to damage. The Ecopias work much better in the rain than the Michelin Energy Saver A/S tires that came on my 2015. I put Continental sport tires on after the Energy Savers wore out and lost about 15% in highway range (probably 10% in stop/go driving), but the car handles much better and they are great in the rain. I had Michelin MXM4s after the Ecopias wore out on the 2011 and lost about 10% of range. They were much better tires than the Energy Savers. If the MXM4s had been in stock, I might have purchased them instead of the Continentals for the 2015.


The aftermarket version of the Ecopias is supposed to be much better than the OEM version.
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