LeftieBiker
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Re: New owner with some longevity questions

Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:17 pm

Yep, '13 Leafs build prior to 4/2013 seem to have crap batteries, as bad as the '11s and '12s. It's unknown when the switch over exactly happened.


We haven't seen any fast-degrading 4/13 builds, and the one or two early builds we have seen that didn't degrade fast were January builds, IIRC. Everything points to April 1st 2013 as the switchover date, although I guess it could be something like the last week (or day) of March.

You don't have to run the car hard, Bard. Just keep the pack warm and full. If it has QC and you have a DC Fast Charge station near you, use it often, and more than once in the same day when you can. Don't use the charge to 80% option and make sure the pack is full when not in use, as much as you can. Park it in the sun and blast the A/C when you get back in, if necessary. Just don't exceed 140F (IIRC) or physically abuse the pack. It sounds like you won't have to worry much about going over 60,000 miles, but make sure that you don't...
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thebard
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Re: New owner with some longevity questions

Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:10 pm

So the CarFax says (abridged version):

2/9/13 manufactured
3/5/13 offered for sale
3/8/13 pre-delivery inspection
3/18/13 vehicle serviced
6/6/13 vehicle serviced, 12 mi
7/14/13 titled or registered as personal lease vehicle
7/15/13 battery charged/tire pressure/safety inspection, 13 mi
8/14/13 title issued or updated, first owner reported, titled or registered as personal lease vehicle, 35 mi

Which date would determine the warranty?
2013 SV --- QC / Navigation --- Brilliant Silver

LeftieBiker
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Re: New owner with some longevity questions

Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:57 pm

It should be the last, latest date. The warranty starts when the first owner "takes delivery" of the newly titled car.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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thebard
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Re: New owner with some longevity questions

Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:16 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:It should be the last, latest date. The warranty starts when the first owner "takes delivery" of the newly titled car.


Well, that's good news, looks like I'm covered into August of next year anyway. Thank you all for the advice and input, will let you know how it goes.

Either way, I'm loving this car. I have actually started not hating driving in LA again! Had the electrician in yesterday for a quote on EVSE installation (DWP offers a $500 rebate here)...
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baustin
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Re: New owner with some longevity questions

Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:13 pm

thebard wrote:So the CarFax says (abridged version):

2/9/13 manufactured
3/5/13 offered for sale
3/8/13 pre-delivery inspection
3/18/13 vehicle serviced
6/6/13 vehicle serviced, 12 mi
7/14/13 titled or registered as personal lease vehicle
7/15/13 battery charged/tire pressure/safety inspection, 13 mi
8/14/13 title issued or updated, first owner reported, titled or registered as personal lease vehicle, 35 mi

Which date would determine the warranty?


The warranty starts on the in-service date, which is the date on the Nissan sales documents. It is going to be sometime between 3/8/13 and 7/14/13. Call the Nissan EV line (877-NO-GAS-EV) with the VIN number and confirm the in-service date.
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RonDawg
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Re: New owner with some longevity questions

Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:27 pm

7/14/2013 is likely the in-service date as that's when the car was officially titled. The August date is "title issued OR UPDATED" which could mean that is when the DMV actually created a file in their system; in California that can take up to 90 days, though most people get their license plates in 2-4 weeks.
Blue Ocean 2012 Leaf SV, lost that 1st bar on 11/21/2015 at 26,435 miles.
Lease returned on 12/23/2015. Final LeafStat figures: 225 Gids, 17.44 kWH, SOC 91.89%, SOH 82.36%, 69.49% HX, 54.57 Ahr, battery temp 61.8 F
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LeftieBiker
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Re: New owner with some longevity questions

Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:14 pm

Yes, that's right. My mistake. The title gets reported after the owner/lessee takes possession of the car.
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thebard
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Re: New owner with some longevity questions

Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:33 am

You guys called it... just spoke top a rep and they told me basically the same thing, capacity good until 7/14/18 or 60k, li-ion defects/workmanship until 7/14/21 or 100k.

I might be in ok shape, whadaya think? I'm not gonna stress either way, but if I'm really at 76% SOH with 15 months to go, including some summer months... I've seen estimates on the forum regarding how the SOH actually translates to capacity bars on the dash, but who knows, Nissan could have programmed that last bar to hold on for dear life!

Thanks for all the advice, wish me luck.
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LeftieBiker
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Re: New owner with some longevity questions

Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:30 pm

The evidence indicates that Nissan has, indeed, programmed the 9th bar to stay for as long as possible.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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thebard
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Re: New owner with some longevity questions

Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:42 pm

How much does the SOH in LeafSpy typically fluctuate? After another week & another road trip, it's now reading 78%.
2013 SV --- QC / Navigation --- Brilliant Silver

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