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Can a 2013 SV with 15,000 miles still have 12 bars?

Fri May 05, 2017 10:32 am

A dealer sent a photo of a 2013 Leaf's instrument panel and the capacity bars - the short ones on the far right - are 12 in number. The car has almost 15,000 miles. Is it possible for the car to still have 12 bars? I don't have Leaf Spy yet.

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Re: Can a 2013 SV with 15,000 miles still have 12 bars?

Fri May 05, 2017 10:38 am

I am in Texas, my car, 2013S, had 12 bars until 18000 miles & 4 years old. So it can easily have 12 bars.

LeafSpy still shows SOH as 85%, but it went to 84% more than a month at around 18K miles so I lost the bar.

I have been very careful about not parking the car under the sun for the last two years though.

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Re: Can a 2013 SV with 15,000 miles still have 12 bars?

Fri May 05, 2017 11:45 am

My 2013 is at 26500 miles and still has 12 bars.

(although I suspect it will lose one within a year based upon an AHr of 58.60 reported by LeafSpyPro)
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Re: Can a 2013 SV with 15,000 miles still have 12 bars?

Fri May 05, 2017 11:49 am

Looks like you are in Phili, so climate wise it's definitely not as hot in summer as Texas, Georgia, etc.

A 12 bar Leaf with that mileage seems reasonable. Do yourself a favor though and confirm everything with Leaf Spy. If the SOH is >95% then be suspicious of a BMS reset.
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Re: Can a 2013 SV with 15,000 miles still have 12 bars?

Fri May 05, 2017 11:55 am

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What is SOH? A measure of remaining capacity?
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Re: Can a 2013 SV with 15,000 miles still have 12 bars?

Fri May 05, 2017 12:13 pm

I lost mine in the early 30k range. Depends primarily on your climate and not necessarily mileage.
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Re: Can a 2013 SV with 15,000 miles still have 12 bars?

Fri May 05, 2017 12:45 pm

Totally doable. My 2013 is at 28k miles, 90% SOH, 12 bars.

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Re: Can a 2013 SV with 15,000 miles still have 12 bars?

Fri May 05, 2017 12:48 pm

SOH is a measure of internal resistance that happens to correlate exactly with remaining capacity. So a SOH of 90% means 90% remaining capacity. (Hx measures the same thing, but it's more like a snapshot of the moment, and SOH is more like an average over a longer period.) My 2013 SV has 16.6k miles on it, BTW, and still has 12 bars, although that may change this Summer.
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Re: Can a 2013 SV with 15,000 miles still have 12 bars?

Fri May 05, 2017 8:43 pm

2013 SL, 12 bars and 31,707 miles.
Think I'm at 89% SOH and 58.85AHr

Drive a 50 mile round trip commute all week with it. Hoping it lasts me at least 4 years and keeps my commute in range. Charging at work may be available within a year, so that will certainly help.

@jlv, You state you're at 58.60AHr. I recall reading that the first bar loss occurs at 54AHr-55.5AHr. Do you really expect to lost that much capacity within a year?

Has anyone graphed the average loss over the years? Is it even close to linear based on consistent use and conditions?
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Re: Can a 2013 SV with 15,000 miles still have 12 bars?

Fri May 05, 2017 10:16 pm

I'm going on 45,000 miles and still have 12 bars.
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