alozzy
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Re: Diagnostic hardware needed for used Leaf buyer in Seattle??

Wed May 17, 2017 12:36 pm

Bummer, I haven't tried yet although I did call UHaul and they said that my local location has them. However, I take that with a grain of salt as UHaul's communication between head office and branch locations is often poor.
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jjeff
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Re: Diagnostic hardware needed for used Leaf buyer in Seattle??

Wed May 17, 2017 1:24 pm

It would be nice if a person could just bring up the trailer and find a list of the closest places that had them(even if 500 miles away). Unfortunately, Uhaul's site doesn't seem to work that way, they insist on entering in a place to rent it, return it and dates, then it brings up a list of trailers available near the rental location :( to make matters worse they even insist on entering in your tow vehicle! I just entered in a 2000 Ford Crown Vic as I knew that vehicle would be registered as being able to tow just about any trailer. I'm guessing it might be an issue saying it would be a Nissan Leaf......as Leafs aren't really supposed to tow anything, they might not want to rent you a trailer. I suppose one could pick it up with another vehicle that is rated to tow; pickup, SUV, larger car, etc. then once home, stick it on the Leaf, but you'd have to have access to such a vehicle.
I've been eyeing up small trailers for a decade, large motorcycle trailers seem to be the best fit for a very small car. Most are light and made of aluminum with things like a cooler rack that fits over the tongue and a build in roof rack to strap down larger items on the top of the trailer. My dream trailer is this one, unfortunately, the last time I looked it was well over $2k(~$2.5k) but it's really a nice "lifetime" trailer. 39CF, 225# so less than 1/2 the weight of that UHaul trailer and not much less CF.

https://www.alumaklm.com/recreational/m ... -equipment

Edit: I was wrong, the above trailer is only 17.5CF and cheaper at $2k, the one I was looking at was $2.5k, 39CF and weighs 340lbs, still lighter than the UHaul.
https://www.alumaklm.com/enclosed-trail ... ed-trailer
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baustin
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Re: Diagnostic hardware needed for used Leaf buyer in Seattle??

Wed May 17, 2017 7:09 pm

U-Haul requires you to enter the tow vehicle, because they won't rent for towing on certain vehicles (like Ford Explorers). They see it as a liability issue. You can pick it up with another vehicle, and then transfer it to the one you want to tow with, and that puts the responsibility on you for any issues that result from towing.
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alozzy
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Re: Diagnostic hardware needed for used Leaf buyer in Seattle??

Wed May 17, 2017 7:34 pm

This trailer is interesting:

http://www.bosskibuilt.com/800al1234

Those tires though would have a lot of rolling resistance but, with different tires, rolling resistance could likely be significantly reduced.
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BuckMkII
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Location: Seattle

Re: Diagnostic hardware needed for used Leaf buyer in Seattle??

Wed May 17, 2017 9:53 pm

alozzy wrote:Nothing yet, just a bike rack :-))

Yep, I figured it was for a bike rack. Leaf owners probably aren't the most likely owners of PWCs, although towing a jetski a few miles from home to a ramp is probably one of the towing jobs a Leaf would be most suited for.

My watersport activity is primarily kayaking, so RT range is usually going to be a problem, although the Leaf might rate better for roof rack capacity than my Subaru! The Impreza model I have only allows one or two bikes due to attachment to flimsy aluminum rain gutters. I guess I can carry one plastic sea kayak, but even that exceeds the nominal weight rating. I threw four boats (over 200 pounds) on my Taurus' roof rack last weekend.
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BuckMkII
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Re: Diagnostic hardware needed for used Leaf buyer in Seattle??

Wed May 17, 2017 10:19 pm

baustin wrote: they won't rent for towing on certain vehicles (like Ford Explorers).

What's wrong with Explorers? Other than the roll-over risk typical of cheap pick-ups and SUVs...
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baustin
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Re: Diagnostic hardware needed for used Leaf buyer in Seattle??

Thu May 18, 2017 3:19 am

BuckMkII wrote:
baustin wrote: they won't rent for towing on certain vehicles (like Ford Explorers).

What's wrong with Explorers? Other than the roll-over risk typical of cheap pick-ups and SUVs...


The Explorer tows just fine, as long as the driver is careful and uses common sense. Personally, I'm not aware of anyone having problems towing with an Explorer. My nephew and some friends used an Explorer to pull a U-Haul trailer about 500 miles, with no issues.

This is the notice from the U-Haul web site, when you put in an Explorer as the tow vehicle.

U-Haul has chosen not to rent behind this tow vehicle based on our history of excessive costs in defending lawsuits involving Ford Explorer towing combinations. This policy is not related to safety issues. This is an unusual circumstance for U-Haul – we have built our success for over 60 years by saying 'yes' to our customers. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and are committed to working with our customers to find alternative options to help with their move.
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powersurge
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Re: Diagnostic hardware needed for used Leaf buyer in Seattle??

Thu May 18, 2017 8:30 am

alozzy wrote:This trailer is interesting:

http://www.bosskibuilt.com/800al1234

Those tires though would have a lot of rolling resistance but, with different tires, rolling resistance could likely be significantly reduced.


You could not use this trailer. It is for an atv. You could not take this on any public road, or at any kind of speed ... Probably no more than 15-20mph....

The Leaf IS NOT MADE for towing anything more than bicycles.....

alozzy
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Re: Diagnostic hardware needed for used Leaf buyer in Seattle??

Thu May 18, 2017 8:37 am

If that particular trailer isn't street legal, then the UHaul one I mentioned earlier is.
Canadian with a US 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
Zencar 12/20/24/30A L1/L2 portable EVSE
1-1/4" Curt #11396 hitch
After market, DIY LED DRLs
LeafSpy Pro + Konnwei KW902 ELM327 BT OBDII dongle
Big grin, enjoying my first BEV :D

BuckMkII
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Location: Seattle

Re: Diagnostic hardware needed for used Leaf buyer in Seattle??

Sat May 20, 2017 7:46 am

Can you get the LELink dongle out of the Leaf's OBDII port with your fingers? To be sure the device was working, I installed EngineLink on my phone and tested the dongle on my Taurus, which has the connector just hanging out in the breeze under the steering column, but when I also tried it on my Impreza the bezel around the connector prevented me from getting a grip on it, and I had to grab a small long-nose ViseGrip from the tool box to pull it out. Do I need to carry the pliers in my pocket when I go to test-drive Leafs?
2013 SV no QC, manufactured July 2013
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on 6/16/17 : AHr = 56.4; SOH = 86%; Hx = 84.3; ODO = 39,250

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