GerryAZ
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Location: Phoenix, AZ

Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Tue May 16, 2017 5:43 pm

Don't be surprised if they decide they are flexible on price after it sits on their lot for a while. FWIW, I prefer the electric parking brake and had no problems at all in 3-1/2 years with the 2011. The foot pedal is much less convenient and it has needed repair or adjustment every time I take the car in (free 6-month inspection and each annual battery check so far).
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015

warrenc
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Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:33 pm
Delivery Date: 28 Apr 2017
Leaf Number: 418438
Location: Tacoma,WA

Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Tue May 16, 2017 5:59 pm

I have the luxury of not needing a car (we actually have too many right now), so I plan to let then sit on it for awhile. It's hard to believe, but they actually raised their asking price by almost $1000 over night. I'd be really surprised it they sell it anytime soon!
Then again, I've been surprised more than once in the last few years....
2013 Leaf SV
Tacoma, WA

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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Tue May 16, 2017 7:02 pm

The foot pedal is much less convenient and it has needed repair or adjustment every time I take the car in (free 6-month inspection and each annual battery check so far).


Mine has either been adjusted once in four years, or not at all. And I always use it.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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powersurge
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Location: Long Island, NY

Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Wed May 17, 2017 5:34 am

Wow! You have gotten FREE 6 month services???..... Sounds like you have gotten a good deal on that manual E brake..

PS - The Foot operated emergency brake has been reliably in use for over 60 years and it is a good system... I use it every time I stop the car, and no problems.. The trick is not to stamp on it so hard that you put it though the floor. That is when you damage the mechanicals.

GerryAZ
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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Wed May 17, 2017 6:45 pm

I received 1 free 6-month inspection and 2 free annual battery checks. I felt a snap in the pedal before 6 months like something slipped or some cable strands broke. It was fixed supposedly by adjusting the cable. Either the cable is continuing to stretch or something else is happening to require adjustment at each annual battery check. I apply the brake just firm enough to hold the car, but that may be firmer than most people press on the pedal. The electric module applied the parking brake very firmly in the 2011 and never required service.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015

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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Wed May 17, 2017 10:08 pm

Some cables stretch a lot more than others. I owned two mercury Tracers (Mazda 323 drivetrain with different, actually better Ford bodies) in the Nineties, and the fuel filler release cables on those seemed to have been made of chewing gum. I had to adjust them several times a year.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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warrenc
Posts: 45
Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:33 pm
Delivery Date: 28 Apr 2017
Leaf Number: 418438
Location: Tacoma,WA

Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Thu May 18, 2017 5:23 pm

Sooo..., back to the cars!
I found this one near me for about $1800 less than the other dealer is asking. It's another 2012 SL which I haven't seen it in person, but has about 38K miles on it and a clean carfax. Salesmen sent me pictures of the carfax and the health report that he just got from the Nissan dealer. It spent almost all it's life here in the Pacific Northwest, except for a short trip (about 5 months) to Italy? Not sure what that's all about.
I would attach pictures if I knew how on this board.
On the battery report, it shows a range of 82 miles and 11 bars, and it says "your score is very high and good for your battery" in every area.
2013 Leaf SV
Tacoma, WA

GerryAZ
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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Thu May 18, 2017 7:51 pm

11 bars is good for a 2012 with 38k miles. The rest of the information on the report is just to make the driver feel good. The range is just what the GOM (guess-O-meter or distance to empty, DTE as Nissan calls it) would display.

To put the report you received in perspective, I have received really good marks on some annual reports and lower scores on others. I received low marks for frequent topping off of battery on one report for the 2011 after using the climate control timer before leaving for work all "winter" (climate control timer use or remote activation while plugged in increments the L1/L2 charge count each time it is used). I received low marks for frequent DCQC on the report this year for the 2015 because I was taking advantage of the NCTC program before it expired even though I had less than 50 QCs in 2 years. There is no language in the warranty terms about low or high scores on the test, just requirement to have the test performed annually. The main purpose of the report is for Nissan to collect detailed battery information.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015

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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Thu May 18, 2017 9:29 pm

The kind of climate in which the first version of the Leaf pack does ok is where it's almost always cool or cold. As long as you understand that a single hot Summer can cause it to drop another bar, the 2012 might be fine. Also keep in mind that it will lose bars even with perfect weather, as that chemistry degrades more over time alone than later versions.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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warrenc
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Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:33 pm
Delivery Date: 28 Apr 2017
Leaf Number: 418438
Location: Tacoma,WA

Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Fri May 26, 2017 9:18 pm

So neither of those cars panned out. I'm going down to Olympia, WA tomorrow to look at a 2013 SV which sounds promising. Late 2013 build date, but no back up camera or LED headlights, but gaining the 6.6 Kw charger and heat pump. Any thoughts or comments?
http://www.toyotaofolympia.com/used-Oly ... P7DC418438
2013 Leaf SV
Tacoma, WA

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