GerryAZ
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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Sun May 14, 2017 8:17 pm

It is clearly a 2012 SL and looks to be in nice condition.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015

SageBrush
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Location: Colorado

Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Sun May 14, 2017 10:54 pm

warrenc wrote:I just meant that I've known the salesman for 10 years. I've purchased a couple vehicles from him in that time and sent more than one customer to him. That Chevrolet dealership was sold about 7 years ago, but most of the key players there all moved to this dealer across town and even thought I've never bought anything there, they have all been very good to me. I'm sure he'd love to sell me a new Bolt or a Silverado, but we both know it wouldn't make sense for me.
I just told him to find out what they'll take for it and get back to me. I know when he does it will be the bottom line price, no need to haggle. I appreciate that more as I get older. When I bought my 08 Silverado, I probably spent a total of 15 minutes making the deal. I stopped by a couple years ago, thinking of trading it in on a new one and he talked me out of it.
I'll go out on a limb and guess that your friendly Chevy salesperson knows diddly about the LEAF other than its cosmetic condition, miles, year, and how much the dealership paid.

Do your own homework, or don't be surprised by surprises.

The 12th bar of battery capacity goes away when about 16% of battery capacity is lost. Without LEAFSpy that is the best you can know.
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

warrenc
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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Mon May 15, 2017 2:30 am

You're on a pretty sturdy limb there. He'd be the first to admit that he's no expert on these cars. I ordered another Bluetooth dongle last night.
Next I want to check with insurance and see what they want to cover this thing. That's also a deciding factor.

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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Mon May 15, 2017 2:39 am

Get several quotes, because insurance companies are all over the map on covering the Leaf.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

The most offensive, tasteless phrase in use here is "Pulled the trigger." I no longer respond to posts that use it.

jjeff
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Leaf Number: 422121
Location: MSP MN

Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Mon May 15, 2017 5:37 am

LeftieBiker wrote:Get several quotes, because insurance companies are all over the map on covering the Leaf.

+1, like double the price with some companies :(
Yes, no doubt a '12, the front fender maker lights and headlight adjustment knob on the dash give it away.
Note the '12s and '11s had a VERY light interior, shows basically EVERYTHING! 13's and on have a much nicer(IMO) darker interior, much more forgiving with kids.
If you get it, you might want to add a ~$25 switch to enable you to turn off the heat. Without the switch, in cooler temps and with the climate control on, you have no way to keep the energy hog heater from coming on. If you live in a warmer climate you might be OK without the switch, I for one consider it indispensable and can't believe Nissan wouldn't have included it in every Leaf, that and no SOC% on the '11s and '12s, another MAJOR gaff IMO. SOC% is basically the only display I look at AFA battery capacity. On my '12 I ended up with a used LeafDD gauge and mounted it on the dash. Not as nice as something built in but again basically mandatory to have IMO. Without LeafDD you could also use a OBDII adapter and old Android smart phone along with LeafSpy, LeafSpy gives you SOC% and lots more info, all of which is MUCH better than the really bad GOM on the '11s and '12s, by '13 the GOM got a little better but still hardly worth looking at IMO.
2012 SL purchased used 2/'16
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'12 EVSEupgrade'd 20a L1/L2 EVSE, '13 EVSEupgrade'd adjustable 6-20a L2, 6-13a L1 EVSE
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SageBrush
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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Mon May 15, 2017 8:11 am

One of the nice advantages of buying a used car is that you can consider skipping collision insurance since the car's value once the insurance company is finished with appraisal is somewhere between low and really low.

I insure my LEAF in Colorado for 1M/300k liability for about $15 a month through Amica. Comp insurance might still be worth it since it is usually cheap, and depending where you live and drive uninsured motorist (UI) may also be worthwhile.
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

GerryAZ
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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Mon May 15, 2017 12:45 pm

The GOM in my 2011 was much more accurate after the P3227 software update than the GOM in my 2015 is. I was really surprised how bad the GOM in my 2015 was the first day I drove it. Definitely shop around for insurance and get the plug/play heater off switch.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015

warrenc
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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Mon May 15, 2017 3:54 pm

I thank everyone for their input. I heard back from my salesman and he says they are stuck on that price. He says they are into if for more than that, which seems unlikely to me since trade in value is somewhere south of $6000, but maybe they gave the customer an inflated trade in to offset an inflated price on a new car.
I must say, I was taken by that car with all the options. It felt pretty luxurious for a commuter car! The other problem is the wife is not sold on the idea, although I know she would like the heated seats and steering wheel, and the leather. She just thinks they are too ugly. I can't really argue with that, but like i told her, everybody else has to look at it; you're just driving it and not buying gas!
I did call my insurance and it would cost me just over $40 a month to insure it without collision. That didn't seem too bad to me.

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SalisburySam
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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Tue May 16, 2017 10:58 am

One other difference on the 2012SL - electric emergency brake. Several forum posters don't care for this but mine has worked well and gotten me to apply it without thinking every time I put the car in Park. It even releases itself if you forget when you shift into a driving gear and apply the throttle. My other vehicle has the foot pedal emergency brake that is depressed to apply it and then depressed slightly again to release it. As simple as that sounds, it is cumbersome, and I don't use it unless I'm parked on an incline.
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2012 SL Super Black
Registered to order: April 20, 2010
Ordered: December 6, 2011
11,000 miles, 11 bars showing, 79% SOH

SageBrush
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Re: 2012 Leaf SL?

Tue May 16, 2017 3:46 pm

warrenc wrote: I heard back from my salesman and he says they are stuck on that price.

Of course they are.
Until they are not.
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

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