DaveinOlyWA
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Re: What is result of leaving car "ready to drive" overnight?

Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:08 am

aarond12 wrote:@OP The drain on the battery should be relatively low. I seem to remember someone saying the drain was around 400-450W at idle. That's very little compared to the 22-33kWh contained in the traction battery. Three hours of idle would have likely dropped the battery a percent or two.

Many times I eat lunch in my car and I just leave it "running" so I can easily put my windows up. I rarely notice any drop in percentage for a 30 minute lunch.


its only that high if in drive. In park, its much lower
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Re: What is result of leaving car "ready to drive" overnight?

Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:35 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
RonDawg wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:why should it shut off automatically? No other car does this.


My eGolf does this. A bit annoying actually.


does it work at long traffic lights? Bridge crossings? That would be a reason for me to never buy that car (as if I needed a reason)


This is something that could be implemented in the Settings software: Auto Shutdown On/Off toggle and a user-adjustable time until shutdown.

If you're planning to, say, leave your dog in the car all afternoon and need the fan and A/C to run, fine, program the car accordingly. OTOH, if I've been away from the car for more than five minutes, I've almost certainly forgotten all about it and should just program it to shut down.
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Re: What is result of leaving car "ready to drive" overnight?

Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:51 am

jjeff wrote:I NEVER put my Leaf into park. Like our Prius I simply push the power button to turn the car OFF and put it park.


My wife was in this bad habit and when she began to drive our Prius C with its manual drive select the car began to roll away as she was getting out. Fortunately she changed her habits after a few times and before anything bad happened.

The fact the car beeps at me when I get out with the key and close the door is enough for me to know I left it on. I would not want it to shut off on a timer.
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Re: What is result of leaving car "ready to drive" overnight?

Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:24 am

Darryl wrote:
jjeff wrote:I NEVER put my Leaf into park. Like our Prius I simply push the power button to turn the car OFF and put it park.


My wife was in this bad habit and when she began to drive our Prius C with its manual drive select the car began to roll away as she was getting out. Fortunately she changed her habits after a few times and before anything bad happened......

Are you saying they've changed the way the Prius power button works :?
Ours definatly goes into park as it shuts down, if it didn't I'd take the extra second to actually push the park button but since pushing the power button puts mine in park, I just save the extra step.
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Re: What is result of leaving car "ready to drive" overnight?

Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:17 pm

jjeff wrote:
Darryl wrote:
jjeff wrote:I NEVER put my Leaf into park. Like our Prius I simply push the power button to turn the car OFF and put it park.


My wife was in this bad habit and when she began to drive our Prius C with its manual drive select the car began to roll away as she was getting out. Fortunately she changed her habits after a few times and before anything bad happened......

Are you saying they've changed the way the Prius power button works :?
Ours definatly goes into park as it shuts down, if it didn't I'd take the extra second to actually push the park button but since pushing the power button puts mine in park, I just save the extra step.


Again, ours is a Prius C. It has a shifter like this Image
It can not change positions without your help.
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Re: What is result of leaving car "ready to drive" overnight?

Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:29 am

Darryl wrote:
jjeff wrote:
Darryl wrote:
My wife was in this bad habit and when she began to drive our Prius C with its manual drive select the car began to roll away as she was getting out. Fortunately she changed her habits after a few times and before anything bad happened......

Are you saying they've changed the way the Prius power button works :?
Ours definatly goes into park as it shuts down, if it didn't I'd take the extra second to actually push the park button but since pushing the power button puts mine in park, I just save the extra step.


Again, ours is a Prius C. It has a shifter like this Image
It can not change positions without your help.


All my Priuses had electronic shifting just like the LEAF
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Re: What is result of leaving car "ready to drive" overnight?

Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:45 am

But Darryl's not talking about a (regular) Prius. He's talking about a Prius *C*, otherwise known as the "Aqua" in Japan, and my own Google search seems to show the same style of shifter as a regular car, except with a "B" mode instead of a lower gear.

It's not the first time Toyota has applied a well-known name to multiple and significantly different car models of the same model year. They did the same with the Corolla through much of the 1980's. Oldsmobile also did the same with the Cutlass. Nissan's doing it now with the Versa.
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Re: What is result of leaving car "ready to drive" overnight?

Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:29 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Darryl wrote:
jjeff wrote:Are you saying they've changed the way the Prius power button works :?
Ours definatly goes into park as it shuts down, if it didn't I'd take the extra second to actually push the park button but since pushing the power button puts mine in park, I just save the extra step.


Again, ours is a Prius C. It has a shifter like this Image
It can not change positions without your help.


All my Priuses had electronic shifting just like the LEAF

I didn't realize the "C" had a totally different shifter. Yes, no way that type of shifter will automatically shift into park like my more electric regular Prius. To tell the truth I don't believe I've ever sat in a Prius "C" as I'd never want anything smaller than our regular Prius. I've sat in and driven the larger Prius "V" a couple times but due to it's significantly(IMO) lower gas mileage, I was never that interested. Personally I think Prius(not the C) got it right with the shifter placement, even better than the Leaf. I despise vehicles like the Volt where the shifter takes up a good portion of my knee space and sticks up like a monolith, stick it on the dash like a regular Prius, make it small and get it out of my way :) after all were not talking about a manual stick shift car where one needs to fiddle with it frequently. It's an auto, one button to go forward, one backward and one at stop or to turn off.
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Re: What is result of leaving car "ready to drive" overnight?

Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:18 am

Darryl wrote:My wife was in this bad habit and when she began to drive our Prius C with its manual drive select the car began to roll away as she was getting out. Fortunately she changed her habits after a few times and before anything bad happened.

I'll give you an even more unusual foible of the Prius. We have a Prius V which my wife normally drives. The other day I dropped her off at an art event. I then drove a few blocks to park the car. When I got out I realized she had taken the fob with her in her purse. There I was with a shutdown Prius with no way to restart it. Good thing I hadn't driven it home. :shock:
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