UsedLeaf
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New Leaf owner here

Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:16 am

So I just picked up a 2012 Leaf SL Premium package with 20,000 miles 11 of the 12 bars and extended service contract for 2 more years. Has the 30 min quick charger as well. Got it for $4200. Best deal ever. Drove it to work for the first time today. I was gonna search here for ideas on switching out to LED, I would think those would save my battery power...

Oh and I am in SF Bay Area
2012 Silver Leaf SL Premium Package 20,200 miles

2011 Toyota Tundra V-8 4X4 260,000 miles (was my daily driver)

2009 Mercury Mariner Hybrid 95,000 miles (wifes car)

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powersurge
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Location: Long Island, NY

Re: New Leaf owner here

Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:25 am

The deal that you got was ridiculous... Don't spend a dime on ANY upgrades because you would be throwing away the money you saved on the car into a ditch..

You do not save any significant amount of energy with LED/.////..... It is just a way to have you spend more money...

alozzy
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Re: New Leaf owner here

Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am

Switching out some of the cabinet lighting was cheap and well worth it for me. I found the overhead light and the cargo light in particular are a huge improvement in brightness.
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
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Loving my first BEV :D

UsedLeaf
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Re: New Leaf owner here

Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:26 am

alozzy wrote:Switching out some of the cabinet lighting was cheap and well worth it for me. I found the overhead light and the cargo light in particular are a huge improvement in brightness.


Thanks I will look into that

powersurge wrote:The deal that you got was ridiculous... Don't spend a dime on ANY upgrades because you would be throwing away the money you saved on the car into a ditch..

You do not save any significant amount of energy with LED/.////..... It is just a way to have you spend more money...


I think it was, she got tons of calls but I was the first there with cash in hand, I left work the moment I saw it posted, luckily she was only 3 miles from my work.
And I was thinking about brake lights, I sit in traffic on the brakes for about 40 min each way, I would think that changing to LED would save on those. I guess I have to do more research. I just wanna save energy.
Here is my dash this morning:
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2012 Silver Leaf SL Premium Package 20,200 miles

2011 Toyota Tundra V-8 4X4 260,000 miles (was my daily driver)

2009 Mercury Mariner Hybrid 95,000 miles (wifes car)

0 car payments :)

powersurge
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Location: Long Island, NY

Re: New Leaf owner here

Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:41 am

First, good luck on your new purchase. Second, let's be realistic. All the lights on the car run on 12 volts. If you want to get brighter lights on the interior, then fine...

However, replacing bulbs on the exterior is a total waste of money.. The car is legally equipped with lights, and all cars around you will see you adequately... Why should you care to save a few watts on some brake lights or signal lights, when you only use them part of the time. There is no savings of electricity on this. When you hit the gas hard, or turn on the AC, you immediately cancel any savings an LED bulb gives.. It's all a racquet to get you to buy more toys.. AND It makes you have to take your car apart unnecessarily.

Use the car as is, and when they blow, THEN pick any bulb you like...

magico13
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Location: Cleveland, OH

Re: New Leaf owner here

Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:48 am

You'd probably only save at most like 50 watts, which is 100 to 1000 times less than what the motor draws while driving. If you drive for an hour at 4 miles per kwh you'd save 0.2 miles of range. It's not nothing, but it's small compared to the overall range (around 0.25%). There's orders of magnitude difference between the power consumed by driving compared to the power consumed by any accessories, so I wouldn't fret about shaving off a few watts, but if it brings you happiness then go for it!
2015 SV w/ QC

UsedLeaf
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Re: New Leaf owner here

Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:58 am

powersurge wrote:First, good luck on your new purchase. Second, let's be realistic. All the lights on the car run on 12 volts. If you want to get brighter lights on the interior, then fine...

However, replacing bulbs on the exterior is a total waste of money.. The car is legally equipped with lights, and all cars around you will see you adequately... Why should you care to save a few watts on some brake lights or signal lights, when you only use them part of the time. There is no savings of electricity on this. When you hit the gas hard, or turn on the AC, you immediately cancel any savings an LED bulb gives.. It's all a racquet to get you to buy more toys.. AND It makes you have to take your car apart unnecessarily.

Use the car as is, and when they blow, THEN pick any bulb you like...


Actually maybe I am wrong. I could have sworn I see bulbs in there and not LED.. But the 2011 manual says LED
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2012 Silver Leaf SL Premium Package 20,200 miles

2011 Toyota Tundra V-8 4X4 260,000 miles (was my daily driver)

2009 Mercury Mariner Hybrid 95,000 miles (wifes car)

0 car payments :)

Reddy
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Leaf Number: 006828
Location: Pasco, WA

Re: New Leaf owner here

Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:27 am

The 2011 SL (premium package) definitely has LED lights. I'm not sure about the 2012 SL, but I thought it was the same (at least until 2013).
Reddy
2011 SL; 9 bar, 46.44 AHr; 40,067 mi; rcv'd Aug 18, 2011
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jjeff
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Re: New Leaf owner here

Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:39 pm

As said, the '12SL will have LED headlights and rear exterior lights, but little else. Also as said, don't really expect any range difference by replacing stock bulbs with LED but you might gain brightness or aesthetics but not range.
You got a steal but I wonder whats up with your GOM?? 99 miles is basically unheard of for a 24kwh Leaf, unless someone was coasting down a hill for the last few miles the vehicle was in use on a 100% charged Leaf.....something just doesn't seem right. Oh and speaking of GOM, IMO it's quite inaccurate in the pre '13 Leafs, very optimistic at first and then gets pessimistic towards lower discharge, causing range major anxiety. First thing I'd do is get something like LeafDD(no longer available) or a OBDII adapter and the LeafSpy program. It has a very nice SOC% display among other range indicators, all better than the GOM IMO. With a 11 bar Leaf expect upper 60s to 70 miles for range @ 100% charge, which drops if you like to regularly do 70+ MPH.
If wanting a L2 EVSE(charger) don't waste your money on anything more than 16a @ 240v(well unless you want to futureproof) as 16a is the max you can charge @ 240v, 12a @ 120v.
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gshepherd
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Re: New Leaf owner here

Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:51 pm

Brake / tail lights and low beam headlights are already LED. The rest of the lights are incandescent and not worth messing with unless for aesthetic / gadget reasons.

Turn signal flasher has a bulb out detector, which replacement LEDs would cause it to flash rapidly unless you add a load resistor to fool it (and negate any energy savings).

Cabin lights are easy and cheap to upgrade if your want slightly brighter / whiter light.
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