SashaAtlanta
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Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:58 am

Hi, I'm picking up a 2013 Leaf S today. It has the charging package with a 6.6kw battery and a CHAdeMo socket as well as the standard socket. I'm wondering what I need to do level 2 charging at home. I have a dryer outlet close to the driveway that looks like a 10-30R and some 250v L6-30 sockets at the back of the garage with 30A fuses.

I'd like to charge the Leaf on a timer overnight. Any suggestions? I can do a bit of soldering, but I'm no electrical expert so would get an electrician in if necessary.

There's a CHAdeMO station 5 minutes away, so no tearing hurry but charging at home would be nice.
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:03 pm

The dryer outlet should work. Just get an EVSE (charging station) with the appropriate plug attached. Clipper Creek makes good, inexpensive units and will add the plug before shipping. You can't use more than 24 amps on a 30 amp circuit, so something like their HCS 25 should work fine for overnight charging. It will charge at 20 amps. An HCS-30 should also work, assuming it charges at 24 amps.
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SashaAtlanta
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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:06 pm

Thank you so much LeftieBiker! I edited my post to say that the dryer socket looks like a 10-30R.

I'm not from the US and these strange looking sockets have me a bit bewildered!

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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:11 pm

You should be able to get a plug installed that will work with both your dryer socket and 50 amp RV park outlets. The Neutral plug is not used for EVSE installations, so it would have 3 prongs - Ground and 2 Hots.
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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:27 pm

SashaAtlanta wrote:Thank you so much LeftieBiker! I edited my post to say that the dryer socket looks like a 10-30R.

I'm not from the US and these strange looking sockets have me a bit bewildered!


When you order from Clipper Creek, send them a photo of the socket you plan on plugging into, just to be sure.
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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:32 pm

Have a look at this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=24944

Before using an EVSE on a 10-30 receptacle, you should consult with an electrician and your insurance company as there is no ground.

If it were me, I would have an electrician upgrade the 10-30 to 14-30 instead, but don't tell him/her that you want it for an EV as I bet the price is higher than if you say you're buying a new dryer to use with the 14-30 ;)
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SashaAtlanta
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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:55 pm

I spoke to Clipper Creek and they suggested I just use the 240v L6-30 socket instead with an LCS-30P.

Any thoughts?

Heh! Thanks Alozzy, useful tip! Specially if I park down the road :)
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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:57 pm

Right, if you have a choice between 10-30R and (L)6-30R, the (L)6-30R is a better choice. If those receptacles are not currently in use for anything, I suggest you check them to make sure that they are powered, plus check which breaker controls them and that it is a double pole 30 amp breaker.

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SashaAtlanta
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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:01 pm

Yes, its a double thingy and says 30 on them. I used them for bitcoin mining, so I know they work too.

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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:41 pm

@SashaAtlanta - Just in case you are unsure about the difference between 10-30R and 14-30R...

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If you already have a 14-30R then it's safer and easier to match to an EVSE (they don't use the neutral blade, so you can just remove that blade from the plug on the EVSE cord and plug it directly into the 14-30R, assuming you order it with a 14-50P)
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