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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:23 pm

SashaAtlanta wrote:I spoke to Clipper Creek and they suggested I just use the 240v L6-30 socket instead with an LCS-30P.

Any thoughts?

Heh! Thanks Alozzy, useful tip! Specially if I park down the road :)
Perfect. You will be very pleased with this option. Overnight charging will be a slam dunk.
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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:51 am

A level 2, 16 or 20 Amp is plenty. The difference going to 30 amps is small. I put in a 6-20 outlet. I can charge from 20% to 100% in 4 or 4.5 hours. 30 Amp might shave off 30 minutes. The big jump goes from going from Level 1 to level 2, by a factor of 3 or more.

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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:54 am

One work of caution regarding the use of a "dryer" outlet: Be very sure that the outlet is ONLY used by the EV, or you risk too much draw on the line if another appliance is plugged in concurrently.
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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:35 pm

SageBrush wrote:One work of caution regarding the use of a "dryer" outlet: Be very sure that the outlet is ONLY used by the EV, or you risk too much draw on the line if another appliance is plugged in concurrently.


Yes, although if it was properly installed there won't be anything else on that circuit. If it was for a portable AC welder, though, they might have cheated and added it to a dryer circuit...
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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:26 pm

alozzy wrote:@SashaAtlanta - Just in case you are unsure about the difference between 10-30R and 14-30R...

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If you already have a 14-30R then it's safer and easier to match to an EVSE (they don't use the neutral blade, so you can just remove that blade from the plug on the EVSE cord and plug it directly into the 14-30R, assuming you order it with a 14-50P)


In the US since 1996 a grounded socket is required. That said, There are thousands of 2 L wires and a neutral out there. Really the neutral and ground wires go to the same spot on the main buss. Only the color differs. For EVSE use I do not see a difference since the ground is only for protection.
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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:11 pm

If the cable running from the panel to the outlet box is armored, then the box is probably grounded, and a grounded outlet can easily be added as a result.
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Re: Charging equipment for Leaf? Totally confused :(

Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:21 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:If the cable running from the panel to the outlet box is armored, then the box is probably grounded, and a grounded outlet can easily be added as a result.

Only if the armor has a bonding strip run along the inside of it and welded to each corrugation. That would be modern type AC cable.

Old type AC cable didn't have a bonding strip, and type MC cable doesn't have a bonding strip. The resistance of the armors on those cables is not dependably low enough to function as an EGC.

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