theboltons4
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Move to Mexico: Have 2014 Leaf Shipped? Or buy Newer there...

Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:56 am

Hello Leaf Fans. I will be moving to Mexico in Nov 2019. Trying to plan ahead.
I have had my leaf shipped to Florida once before with no issues.
I was a caregiver of my mother and couldn't take the time to drive it down.
Shipping 2500 miles including through customs might be more challenging.
I asked some Lake Chapala groups and all I got was a lot of ignorance... no knowledge based answers.
It occurred to me none of them have ever driven a leaf let alone owned one.
I know all the technical stuff like your residency determines your options for bringing a car into Mexico.
I am asking if anyone has ever done this and what their experience has been.
My car will be paid off in 2020. So that is part of my thoughts.
We will be living where I can trickle charge it conveniently and will use it as many people use golf carts there.
Any personal experience would be appreciated.
Thanks!

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Re: Move to Mexico: Have 2014 Leaf Shipped? Or buy Newer there...

Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:29 pm

Unless you will be living in one of the coolest parts of Mexico, I would suggest a 2015 Leaf, for the more heat resistant battery pack. If it will actually be Hot there, I'd look for a different EV. IF you will be in the mountains, then it's worth exploring getting it shipped...
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theboltons4
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Re: Move to Mexico: Have 2014 Leaf Shipped? Or buy Newer there...

Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:17 pm

Hi LeftieBiker. Thanks for your imput about the weather. We will have very moderate temps as we will be at 5000 feet there (40 as an absolute low and 90 is uncommon. Here in Baltimore we get much worse extremes and of course my winter heat and summer ac really kill my mileage gotten.
With the average daily high of 75-80 and lows around 50-60, we think "Hugo" will do quite well.
The roads aren't the best there, and side roads are cobblestone, but I don't expect to be off the main road very often.
Thanks again for your imput!

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Re: Move to Mexico: Have 2014 Leaf Shipped? Or buy Newer there...

Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:33 pm

You're welcome. You might want to get the car fully serviced before you leave - brake fluid and pads, 'transaxle' fluid change, new 12 volt battery (I suggest an Optima Yellowtop or similar deeper cycle battery), cabin filter change, even a coolant change. It may be hard to find mechanics to work on it in Mexico.
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Re: Move to Mexico: Have 2014 Leaf Shipped? Or buy Newer there...

Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:12 pm

By the numbers of wrecked but still repairable cars I see being towed south on I-5 towards the border with "In Tow" scrawled on a piece of cardboard attached to the back window, it doesn't appear that folks in Mexico are having a tough time finding mechanics to work on cars that were never officially sold there, at least ICEVs.

For anything not involving the car's propulsion system, it would be trivially easy for a shade-tree mechanic to work on it. 12 v battery replacements, cabin filter changes, coolant, brake pads, even the transaxle fluid are no different to work on than an ICEV.

Parts may be a bit harder to come by, such as finding the exact 12 volt battery, or even the cabin filter. You may want to make arrangements with someone still back in the US to buy these parts and ship them to you if you can't get it locally. Coolant should be the same as you can get in any auto parts store.

But I would recommend having a Nissan dealer in the US take a look at it, to include the battery check, to make sure there's nothing wrong, and if there is to give you time to get it sorted before it gets shipped out. You may even want to grab some extra parts like cabin filters while you're there as they don't take up a lot of room.

Is Mexico on 120 or 240 volt power? If the latter you won't be able to use the OEM EVSE unless it's been modified to accept 240 volt power.
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Re: Move to Mexico: Have 2014 Leaf Shipped? Or buy Newer there...

Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:22 pm

Ahhhh Chapala. Great area. Perpetual spring time temps, close to Guadalajara which is probably one of the nicest cities in the Americas, and generally a nice place to live. I don't think you'll have a hard time finding a Leaf dealer in Guad but depending on your spanish skill level you may want to get the maintenance done before you go. Although Chapala has english speakers generally not too common in Guad. Are you going to become a resident? If so the import procedure is different. It changes fast enough that you probably want to talk to an immigration lawyer. Wait till you get there and talk to your neighbours in Chapala to see who they are using. Be careful taking advice from other expats as many are probably doing it wrong or even illegally. Importing cars is a bit confusing for Mexico.

Enjoy your move. Have you ever been there (Guad I mean).

Disfruta su estancia.

On edit. I just checked. NISSAN GUADALAJARA VALLARTA is a Leaf dealer. They have them in stock. They are on the west side of Guad. Take the ring road...trust me TAKE THE RING ROAD. :) The address is.

Av. Vallarta 6600, Ciudad Granja. Zapopan, Jalisco. México, 45010

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Re: Move to Mexico: Have 2014 Leaf Shipped? Or buy Newer there...

Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:33 pm

For anything not involving the car's propulsion system, it would be trivially easy for a shade-tree mechanic to work on it. 12 v battery replacements, cabin filter changes, coolant, brake pads, even the transaxle fluid are no different to work on than an ICEV.


Yes. What I meant (but didn't write) was that it might be hard to find mechanics with Leaf-specific experience in the mountains of Mexico. If the OP can afford it, it probably makes more sense to have the car fully serviced before transporting it. From what I see above, there are apparently Leaf Techs available, although their quality is an unknown. So if the dealer they use now is good, I stand by my suggestion. If they can find out that the dealer near their new home is fine, it might make more sense to give them the work and establish a relationship.
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Re: Move to Mexico: Have 2014 Leaf Shipped? Or buy Newer there...

Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:59 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
For anything not involving the car's propulsion system, it would be trivially easy for a shade-tree mechanic to work on it. 12 v battery replacements, cabin filter changes, coolant, brake pads, even the transaxle fluid are no different to work on than an ICEV.


Yes. What I meant (but didn't write) was that it might be hard to find mechanics with Leaf-specific experience in the mountains of Mexico. If the OP can afford it, it probably makes more sense to have the car fully serviced before transporting it. From what I see above, there are apparently Leaf Techs available, although their quality is an unknown. So if the dealer they use now is good, I stand by my suggestion. If they can find out that the dealer near their new home is fine, it might make more sense to give them the work and establish a relationship.


My general experience with mechanics in Mexico are they are top rate. BUT...I agree that getting things done before going is a good idea, As well, having a good grasp of a language you are negotiating or explaining a problem in is really important. Guadalajara is a great city, second biggest city in Mexico) but english is rarely heard.
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theboltons4
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Re: Move to Mexico: Have 2014 Leaf Shipped? Or buy Newer there...

Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:08 pm

RonDawg, WeBeLeafOwners and LeftieBiker: your information is very helpful. As I certainly have time before I need to make a decision, i will take all the ideas I can get.
I can’t figure out how you figured out which Guad Nisan dealer has Leafs (Haha not Leaves!) available but I am impressed! I also hope that means used ones might be found as well.
The biggest thing we have yet to decide is our resident status. Perm Mexico Residence does not allow us to bring our US car without paying heftily. Temp Residence gives us a few better options as US car owners.
As to the Electric in Chapala, what we have seen was 110. So I have no problem trickle charging as public stations are non existent at this time. The only issue would be if we chose apartment style living. Definitely a consideration...
Service here has a following of its own. People are always telling Happy stories about their experiences. Parts is another story: we have heard about parts taking weeks to months to arrive. That’s a bummer, of course, but there’s always a glitch somewhere.
I look forward to any other advise anyone has to offer. Wish this was 2019 we were heading into. We are so ready for this move!

theboltons4
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Re: Move to Mexico: Have 2014 Leaf Shipped? Or buy Newer there...

Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:09 pm

Advice not advise... sorry the teacher in me must say it correctly!

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