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Re: Reference Documents

Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:10 am

lne937s wrote:LEAF technical data from Paris show. Most of which we already know, but gives track measurments:
http://www.newsroom.nissan-europe.com/d ... aspx?40795


The other new info is luggage volume - 330 Litres. Prius is 446 L.

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Re: Reference Documents

Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:20 am

Portuguese leafs will get:
6m cable, 16A, 309-2 plug

Maybe we in Portugal won't need the L2 charger to get 8 hours instead of 10 hrs?
Will the inboard car know how many amps are available? What appends if we pug it in to a 12 AMP socket?

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Re: Reference Documents

Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:18 am

Vgomes wrote:Portuguese leafs will get:
6m cable, 16A, 309-2 plug

Maybe we in Portugal won't need the L2 charger to get 8 hours instead of 10 hrs?
Will the inboard car know how many amps are available? What appends if we pug it in to a 12 AMP socket?

Vitor
Vitor: see this: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1409&start=8
Seems the Portugese version allows for an extra 3amps :P What would be the cost for replacement cable ?
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Re: Reference Documents

Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:32 pm

In Portugal, do you have 12-amp sockets and also higher-amp
sockets with require different plugs?
See SOC/GID-Meter and CAN-Do Info
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Re: Reference Documents

Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:40 am

garygid wrote:In Portugal, do you have 12-amp sockets and also higher-amp
sockets with require different plugs?


Hi,

Portugal has the same sockets as Germany, Norway, etc etc., which are usually rated at 16A, 230V, giving approx 3.6 kW.

In Britain the sockets are 13A, 230V.


Additionally, where three-phase is available, there are standard sockets for 3 x 16A, 400V/230V, giving approx 11 kW.
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Re: Reference Documents

Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:19 am

Wow, that is really "Giving Power to the People"!

Makes me wonder if the charger in the USA LEAF will draw 16 amps, or just 15 amps (if "offered" 16 or more amps by the "EVSE", of course)?

Seems unlikely that Nissan would "adjust" the on-board charger differently for each country.

So, for now, I am guessing that it will "eat" (draw) 16 amps at (almost) any voltage, if given the chance to do so.
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EV Orientation and Driving - USPS 1990s

Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:32 pm

This is a complete orientation to EV driving. The USPS electric vehicle was based on the Ford Ranger EV.





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Re: Reference Documents

Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:47 pm

garygid wrote:Wow, that is really "Giving Power to the People"!

Makes me wonder if the charger in the USA LEAF will draw 16 amps, or just 15 amps (if "offered" 16 or more amps by the "EVSE", of course)?

Seems unlikely that Nissan would "adjust" the on-board charger differently for each country.

So, for now, I am guessing that it will "eat" (draw) 16 amps at (almost) any voltage, if given the chance to do so.


There are three important (input) parameters for any charger - input voltage, input current and the product of the two (assuming they are in phase), which gives the number of kW.

The charger will have a maximum input voltage (say 230V here) which is limited by the voltage the electronics in the charger can withstand. Then, there is a maximum input current - say 10 or 16 A, given by the limit of the electronics, but also by such things as the cable and especially the electricity plug and socket.

These chargers have advanced microcomputer controlled electronics, and the microcomputer can trivially be programmed to not draw more than 10, 13 or 16 A. This would mean that the batteries are charged with 2.3 kW up to 3.68 kW. It is not difficult for them (in fact it is a legal requirement) to make sure the UK chargers are limited to 13 A if they use a 13 A plug.

Of course, if you have only 110V (like in the US), you would need more than twice the current to get the same power - meaning massive cables and plugs for 3.6 kW.
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Re: Reference Documents

Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:10 pm

2011 Nissan Leaf Quick Reference Guide
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B1 ... y=COjKzd0B

The Utility Role in Supporting Plug-In Electric Vehicle Charging
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B1 ... y=CKvA9bUE


10/04/10 San Diego EV Workshop:

Mitsubishi CCSE 10.04.10.pdf
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=1cf ... y=CPLOn70G

SDG&E CCSE 10-4-10.pdf
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=10W ... ey=COrHlDo

ECOtality CCSE 10.04.10.pdf
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=1WT ... ey=CKLp_z4

CVRP CCSE 10 04 10.pdf
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=129 ... y=CK7uuKIK
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Re: Reference Documents

Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:54 pm

Specs from EU press kit:
http://newsroom.nissan-europe.com/EU/en ... peid=21,10
http://newsroom.nissan-europe.com/downl ... aspx?41194
http://newsroom.nissan-europe.com/EU/en ... iaid=41193

Some new info, including max motor speed, battery voltage, etc.

Max. engine power 1) kW(PS)/min-1 80[109] /2730-9800rpm
Max. torque 1) Nm/min-1 280 /0-2730rpm
max RPM 10,390
Final drive ratio (AT) 7.9377

So it looks like they have it programmed to let the motor put out 280Nm of torque up to 2730rpm, but then have it trail off to keep horsepower flat above that (hp is a result of torque multiplied by rpm).

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