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Re: How should you charge your leaf at home?

Fri May 18, 2018 1:47 pm

After 4 years I still have only the L1 for the LEAF at home. I can get away with that since I have access to a L2 at work and am able to charge the car most days of the work week. It wasn't until I got the S that I put in a NEMA 10-50 outlet (since the Tesla comes with a 40A capable mobile EVSE).
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Re: How should you charge your leaf at home?

Fri May 18, 2018 8:05 pm

I understand there is about 300 watts overhead during charging. So if you charge 12 hours on L1 vs 3 hours on L2 you just used 2.7 extra kWh of power.
Do this most days for a few years and you might pay for the L2 station. The convenience and less worry about charging is a bonus.
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Re: How should you charge your leaf at home?

Sat May 19, 2018 10:23 am

jlv wrote:After 4 years I still have only the L1 for the LEAF at home. I can get away with that since I have access to a L2 at work and am able to charge the car most days of the work week. It wasn't until I got the S that I put in a NEMA 10-50 outlet (since the Tesla comes with a 40A capable mobile EVSE).


Tesla redesigned the supplied EVSE. It is no longer 40A now it is 24A. This applies to all current cars. If I had to guess they had problems pushing the 30A Potter and Brumfield relay to 40A. They also substantially lowered the price. It is now in the 300's.
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Re: How should you charge your leaf at home?

Sat May 19, 2018 10:32 am

I guess if you really need 40A then there is Clipper Creek and OpenEVSE using the supplied J1772 adapter. I charge my Tesla based Mercedes B at 40A using A Quick Charge Power cable and an OpenEVSE using J1772. I think you can also purchase a high power JuiceBox but I have no experience with it.

All three fully comply with the J1772 specification including the GFCI test unlike many Chinese units.
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Re: How should you charge your leaf at home?

Sun May 20, 2018 10:35 am

GlennD wrote:
jlv wrote:After 4 years I still have only the L1 for the LEAF at home. I can get away with that since I have access to a L2 at work and am able to charge the car most days of the work week. It wasn't until I got the S that I put in a NEMA 10-50 outlet (since the Tesla comes with a 40A capable mobile EVSE).


Tesla redesigned the supplied EVSE. It is no longer 40A now it is 24A. This applies to all current cars. If I had to guess they had problems pushing the 30A Potter and Brumfield relay to 40A. They also substantially lowered the price. It is now in the 300's.
The one that came with my car is the Gen1 mobile connector that outputs 40A, as I stated above.

The Gen2 mobile connector (which is indeed now the standard for all their cars) outputs 32A (using a NEMA 10-50) not 24A. It costs exactly $300.
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Re: How should you charge your leaf at home?

Sun May 20, 2018 4:10 pm

GlennD wrote:I guess if you really need 40A then there is Clipper Creek and OpenEVSE using the supplied J1772 adapter. I charge my Tesla based Mercedes B at 40A using A Quick Charge Power cable and an OpenEVSE using J1772. I think you can also purchase a high power JuiceBox but I have no experience with it.

All three fully comply with the J1772 specification including the GFCI test unlike many Chinese units.


And if price is the reason some are putting off buying a quality EVSE, Clipper Creek is now offering factory refurbished units, with a one-year warranty. Cost is $300 for the LCS series and $400 for the HCS series, regardless of power output.

https://store.clippercreek.com/used

So if you're lucky and can score a factory-refurbished HCS-60 (assuming you have the necessary 60 amp circuit as well), at $400 that's less than half the price of a brand new one. (For those not familiar with how Clipper Creek's nomenclature, the number refers to the required circuit capacity, and not the output. Actual maximum output is 80% of that, so an HCS-60 outputs 48 amps max, an LCS-25 20 amps max, etc.)

As availability varies, you have to call or email them, no web sales.
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Re: How should you charge your leaf at home?

Sun May 20, 2018 7:00 pm

GlennD wrote:
jlv wrote:After 4 years I still have only the L1 for the LEAF at home. I can get away with that since I have access to a L2 at work and am able to charge the car most days of the work week. It wasn't until I got the S that I put in a NEMA 10-50 outlet (since the Tesla comes with a 40A capable mobile EVSE).


Tesla redesigned the supplied EVSE. It is no longer 40A now it is 24A.

This is incorrect. It is rated for 32A continuous
https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/fil ... _en_US.pdf

As for the Model 3 OBC, it is rated for 32A - 48A continuous, depending on model

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So a properly installed 14-50 outlet with no home issues will charge a SR Model 3 at up to 32Amps (7.7 kW) and an LR Model 3 at up to 40 Amps (9.6 kW)
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Re: How should you charge your leaf at home?

Mon May 21, 2018 4:05 pm

I have a 2018 leaf, and it comes with a cord that is either L1 (120) or L2 (240). Initially, my plan was to stick with the L1 and just plug it in. However, since the cord has all the electronics built in, I just need to add a 14-50 outlet in my garage. I am lucky that the wall is right behind the breaker panel. So...the cost will only be $200.

For me, it will be worth it for the increase in charge time. I can run it lower, and not have to charge so often.

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Re: How should you charge your leaf at home?

Mon May 21, 2018 9:47 pm

Onbypass wrote:I have a 2018 leaf, and it comes with a cord that is either L1 (120) or L2 (240). Initially, my plan was to stick with the L1 and just plug it in. However, since the cord has all the electronics built in, I just need to add a 14-50 outlet in my garage. I am lucky that the wall is right behind the breaker panel. So...the cost will only be $200.

For me, it will be worth it for the increase in charge time. I can run it lower, and not have to charge so often.


Make sure that you get a 40 amp circuit (a 50amp breaker is ok, and a 30 should work, as 40 amp breakers are harder to find) as the Nissan EVSE provides a bit too much current to be legal for a 30 amp dryer circuit.
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Re: How should you charge your leaf at home?

Tue May 22, 2018 5:58 am

LeftieBiker wrote:40 amp breakers are harder to find


https://www.homedepot.com/p/Square-D-Ho ... /202353324
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