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Re: Buying Used 2015 QC Option question

Thu May 17, 2018 2:46 pm

mkwilkes wrote:So, I believe Gary is clear that his soon to be delivered '15 Leaf S has the 3.3kW, 6.6kW, and the QC port.

Lest there be any confusion may I point out that since it has the 6.6 kW onboard charger (which it does if it has QC), it does not also have a 3.3 kW onboard charger. Every Leaf has exactly one onboard charger. Every Leaf charger supports both Level 1 and Level 2. [Well, I can't swear that the Leafs in countries that have 240V instead of 120V house current support Level 1.] The 3.3 kW and 6.6 kW chargers differ only in the maximum rate at which they can charge the battery.
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Re: Buying Used 2015 QC Option question

Thu May 17, 2018 3:07 pm

At this point I wonder if we are being trolled.

Mkwilkes, please stop posting answers to questions on which you are not clear.
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Re: Buying Used 2015 QC Option question

Thu May 17, 2018 3:53 pm

I love my Leaf and have been learning more about it on this forum, but I guess I don't meet Leftiebiker's high standards. I was just trying to help Gary, an excited new owner. I apologize for any confusion I may have caused.

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Re: Buying Used 2015 QC Option question

Thu May 17, 2018 7:56 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:At this point I wonder if we are being trolled.



Is this for me?

I am not trolling, Im asking legit questions here.

mkwilkes wrote:I love my Leaf and have been learning more about it on this forum, but I guess I don't meet Leftiebiker's high standards. I was just trying to help Gary, an excited new owner. I apologize for any confusion I may have caused.


Yes very excited here. Just took my first long ride in the Leaf. LOVE it so far and the earlier comment I made about the Fiat being faster was because the ECO was on in the Leaf. When I got outta that ECO, the Leaf has some balls LOL


I dont quite understand this pic I took.


Why would the time to a complete charge at 240 V be the same time (230)??? at 3 AND 6 KW?

Heres pic.

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Re: Buying Used 2015 QC Option question

Thu May 17, 2018 8:42 pm

No, that wasn't directed at you. As for the charge estimate, that bit of firmware was written for the Japanese grid and never changed for the US until 2018. I have no idea why it lists the same time for two different rates. It is generally pessimistic.
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Re: Buying Used 2015 QC Option question

Thu May 17, 2018 9:10 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:No, that wasn't directed at you. As for the charge estimate, that bit of firmware was written for the Japanese grid and never changed for the US until 2018. I have no idea why it lists the same time for two different rates. It is generally pessimistic.


Thank you Leftiebiker.

You guys have really helped here. I'm glad to be part of the forum and I am loving my Leaf on this first day!

I'm going to take it for a night ride here while the traffic is light to get to know it better.

Thank you again for all your input. It helped me alot. :D

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Re: Buying Used 2015 QC Option question

Thu May 17, 2018 9:38 pm

@GaryHere Because you are already above 80% charge, the estimated rate of charge is less than or equal to 3.3 kW accordingly - which is why they both show the same estimated time to 100% SOC. You should find the estimates are different when the SOC is lower.

Also, I would guess that the estimated time is off a bit due to the fact that Japan has 100V/200V supplies. Additionally, some parts of Japan are 50 Hz while others are 60 Hz, which would also throw off the estimates. That of course assumes that Nissan didn't bother to adjust the software estimates based on the different supply voltages in each market and instead based everything off of Japanese supply voltages (and possibly 50 Hz frequency too).
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Re: Buying Used 2015 QC Option question

Thu May 17, 2018 9:49 pm

Because you are already above 80% charge, the estimated rate of charge is less than or equal to 3.3 kW accordingly - which is why they both show the same estimated time to 100% SOC. You should find the estimates are different when the SOC is lower.


That makes sense, but I didn't realize/think that L-2 starts to taper that soon. I thought it was more like 95% indicated, or 11 charge bars.
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Re: Buying Used 2015 QC Option question

Thu May 17, 2018 10:54 pm

alozzy wrote:You should find the estimates are different when the SOC is lower.

Yep. And, as noted, the estimates aren't accurate either.

I don't think I've seen the 3 kW and 6 kW times match but I've seen them pretty close. It's likely due to the amount of time spent on each in taper and bounce when charging to 100%. See viewtopic.php?f=6&t=23739&p=490435&hilit=chargepoint+graph#p490435 and viewtopic.php?p=493874#p493874.

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Re: Buying Used 2015 QC Option question

Sat May 19, 2018 10:53 am

The need for L3 charging really depends on your needs. Both my Leaf's and my eGolf had quick charging. On all three I never used it. At home L2 charging works for me. When my 2014 B was totaled I had just over 9000 miles with 14 months left on the lease,

If I needed fast charging Tony Williams company makes an L3 adapter but for me it is a waste of money.
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