Deolloz
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Just bought a 2011 Leaf and loving it!

Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:49 pm

This is my first EV and probably not my last, a used 2011 Leaf SL w/ only 44,000 miles and in general fantastic condition. 9 bars of capacity on the battery, still, and a squeaky clean carfax report.

A few questions if I may:

About Range/Capacity:
W/ 9 bars of capacity left, I believe I'm able to go only about ~50 miles of range on a full charge, is that correct? I know of course lots of variables must be accounted for. But on my first two full days of using it, after about 50 miles, i was running on the "---" and VLB warnings to get home.

I recently bought the OBD took that was recommended on various websites and will be hooking it up to my car and using the "leafspy" app to get an accurate gauge on my EV's SoH. Any advise or tutorials on that would be greatly appreciated.

About the Touch-Screen Navigation:
Is it possible to actually use the built in touch-screen navigation system with TRAFFIC reports and current charging stations listed? And, how do I update the MAPS? (or would I be better off using my phone? I know that the original built in 2G NETWORK has been disabled on my car by the dealer at some point in time, so that's good that it's not still searching for that network and wasting battery) But I'm not sure how updated and accurate the navigation is at this point in time.

About charing:
One of the chargepoint locations near my house is FREE!!! HOORAY! but I noticed that location is not on the "PlugShare" app, although it does show up on the ChargePoint app which is how I found it!? Why doesn't it show up on the "PlugShare" app too?




Thanks all and I'm very excited to get to learn more and more about this vehicle. From my understanding, my vehicle may have sat unused and/or in storage for the last 3 years prior to my purchase from a used car dealership, according to the carfax report. Not sure if/how that may have affected it's batteries capacity, but the overall condition is superb.

LeftieBiker
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Re: Just bought a 2011 Leaf and loving it!

Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:43 pm

About Range/Capacity:
W/ 9 bars of capacity left, I believe I'm able to go only about ~50 miles of range on a full charge, is that correct? I know of course lots of variables must be accounted for. But on my first two full days of using it, after about 50 miles, i was running on the "---" and VLB warnings to get home.


I'll take this one. Your actual range will depend both on the factors of which you are aware, and on whether it's a "solid" nine bars or if it's about to drop to 8 bars. You may want to call it a 40 mile range, with a 10 mile emergency reserve.
Scarlet Ember 2018 Leaf SL W/ Pro Pilot
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Deolloz
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Re: Just bought a 2011 Leaf and loving it!

Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:54 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
About Range/Capacity:
W/ 9 bars of capacity left, I believe I'm able to go only about ~50 miles of range on a full charge, is that correct? I know of course lots of variables must be accounted for. But on my first two full days of using it, after about 50 miles, i was running on the "---" and VLB warnings to get home.


I'll take this one. Your actual range will depend both on the factors of which you are aware, and on whether it's a "solid" nine bars or if it's about to drop to 8 bars. You may want to call it a 40 mile range, with a 10 mile emergency reserve.



Thank You LeftieBiker, Yes I do believe a ~45 mile range would be about average for me at this point in time. I think hooking up the OBD tool and using the leafspy app within the next few days should give me a better idea of the SoH in total. I was really hoping for a 50 mile range because that would keep me nice and safe each day. We shall see, and I will be on the hunt for general battery maintenance tips from here on out. Also looking at replacing the battery, at some point down the road, if this one can service me for at least a 2-3 years.

LeftieBiker
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Re: Just bought a 2011 Leaf and loving it!

Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:05 pm

If the tires are inflated to the suggested 36psi, raise them to 40-42. That will give you another mile or so of free range, as well as better tire life. I'm not sure where you are, but in most locales you'd also benefit from adding a heater Off/On switch to the climate control, as your car runs the energy-wasting water heater whenever the climate control is on and the temperate outside isn't hot. This will add another few miles when the heater isn't needed.
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bitmanEV
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Re: Just bought a 2011 Leaf and loving it!

Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:27 am

for the heater mod have a look here; http://betterev.tabetalt.no

and just enjoy your 'new' Leaf :)
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Reddy
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Re: Just bought a 2011 Leaf and loving it!

Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:43 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
About Range/Capacity:
W/ 9 bars of capacity left, I believe I'm able to go only about ~50 miles of range on a full charge, is that correct? I know of course lots of variables must be accounted for. But on my first two full days of using it, after about 50 miles, i was running on the "---" and VLB warnings to get home.


I'll take this one. Your actual range will depend both on the factors of which you are aware, and on whether it's a "solid" nine bars or if it's about to drop to 8 bars. You may want to call it a 40 mile range, with a 10 mile emergency reserve.
Welcome and congratulations! This is roughly correct, but watch out for winter where the range can be anywhere from 20-50 mi depending on temps, speeds, snow, wind, rain, etc. I've been driving mine nearly 7 yrs and have the same mileage & bars, so you've got an "average" 2011 Leaf. BTW, go to your profile and input your approx. location so we can continue to give you better advice.
Reddy
2011 SL; 9 bar, 45.80 AHr; 45,000 mi; rcv'd Aug 18, 2011
Long: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... al#p226115"
Cold: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p243033"

Reddy
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Re: Just bought a 2011 Leaf and loving it!

Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:56 pm

Deolloz wrote:About the Touch-Screen Navigation:
Is it possible to actually use the built in touch-screen navigation system with TRAFFIC reports and current charging stations listed? And, how do I update the MAPS? (or would I be better off using my phone? I know that the original built in 2G NETWORK has been disabled on my car by the dealer at some point in time, so that's good that it's not still searching for that network and wasting battery) But I'm not sure how updated and accurate the navigation is at this point in time.
Just use your phone. Nissan charges too much for an "upgrade" to 3G (IIRC), which is still pretty outdated.
Deolloz wrote:One of the chargepoint locations near my house is FREE!!! HOORAY! but I noticed that location is not on the "PlugShare" app, although it does show up on the ChargePoint app which is how I found it!? Why doesn't it show up on the "PlugShare" app too?
Be a good EV citizen and add it to Plugshare yourself. 8-) -OR- Don't add it and keep it for yourself :twisted:
Deolloz wrote:Thanks all and I'm very excited to get to learn more and more about this vehicle. From my understanding, my vehicle may have sat unused and/or in storage for the last 3 years prior to my purchase from a used car dealership, according to the carfax report. Not sure if/how that may have affected it's batteries capacity, but the overall condition is superb
At this point it really doesn't matter. Your car, like mine, has seen calendar degradation that is a function of time and temperature. If used quickly (2 yrs) at Seattle temps, the battery will go 100,000 mi before losing 3-bars. If used slowly (7 yrs), you might lose 3-bars in 40-50,000 mi. I have a friend in Seattle who bought the same time as me and has 2x the mileage with the "same" degradation. Just use it as much as you can. Charge when you need to and stop sending money to the oil barons, foreign or otherwise.
Reddy
2011 SL; 9 bar, 45.80 AHr; 45,000 mi; rcv'd Aug 18, 2011
Long: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... al#p226115"
Cold: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p243033"

TheLostPetrol
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Re: Just bought a 2011 Leaf and loving it!

Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:51 pm

Deolloz wrote:About charging:
One of the ChargePoint locations near my house is FREE!!! HOORAY! but I noticed that location is not on the "PlugShare" app, although it does show up on the ChargePoint app which is how I found it!? Why doesn't it show up on the "PlugShare" app too?

PlugShare's info is crowdsourced. You're one of the crowd; you can add the location yourself. I added one earlier this year when a Whole Foods installed two Voltas. I would only suggest that the description and photo, if any, be chosen to help someone who's never been there.
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Re: Just bought a 2011 Leaf and loving it!

Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:00 pm

Reddy wrote:
Deolloz wrote:About the Touch-Screen Navigation:
Is it possible to actually use the built in touch-screen navigation system with TRAFFIC reports and current charging stations listed? And, how do I update the MAPS? (or would I be better off using my phone? I know that the original built in 2G NETWORK has been disabled on my car by the dealer at some point in time, so that's good that it's not still searching for that network and wasting battery) But I'm not sure how updated and accurate the navigation is at this point in time.

Just use your phone. Nissan charges too much for an "upgrade" to 3G (IIRC), which is still pretty outdated.


That's not entirely true.
First of all, the 3G modem upgrade is $199, which restores your use of CarWings/EVConnect for life. That means status/charge updates, remote climate control, etc. The TRAFFIC reports (I think) require a Sirius/XM subscription, but they are useful. Don't bother updating the maps: I still have the original (2011) database and find the navigation as good or better than my wife's 2016 Ford.
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Re: Just bought a 2011 Leaf and loving it!

Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:03 am

I second what Stanton said and will add some additional information:
1. The map on my 2015 has very little updated information compared to my 2011, but is still quite useable so I recommend to save your money and stay with the original maps.
2. The 3G modem upgrade is useful for charging station updates on the map as well as remote climate control. Although the upgrade was free on my 2015, I would have paid for it if I still had the 2011.
3. The traffic information is a subscription through Sirrius/XM. I like it so I kept the subscription after the free trial ended on each car.
4. The heater cut off switch is a necessary modification because the heating elements in the little hot water tank are activated whenever the HVAC is on if ambient temperature is lower than 60 F or the set point, if higher (even just for ventilation). I actually ran the 2011 dead on my way home once when I had ventilation on (without heat) and the temperature was low enough to activate the 5 kW heating elements. I did not notice the extra power draw until it was too late and ran the car dead about 1/2 mile from home. I then made a temporary modification by putting a resistor in place of the liquid temperature sensor. I would have purchased the plug-and-play kit from Tor as a permanent fix if the car had not been totaled.
Gerry
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