RTrueman
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Trying to decide on 2014 SV

Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:49 am

Hi Folks!

I’ve learned a lot from reading these threads and appreciate the help. I’m thinking about a 2014 SV with 10,124 miles and the premium package. I’ll be certified by the local dealer. I’m near Philadelphia, but the car came up as a government lease in Davie, FL. AHr is 56.74, SOH is 86.76% and Hx is 82.93%. The dealer wants $12,500. The car is clean and drives well, but I’m unsure of the battery specs and price. I have a 25 mile RT commute and currently drive a 2015 Ford F-250 we use to pull our travel trailer. I love my pickup, but it gets 11 mpg and is a pain to park in a normal lot.

What do you all think about the price?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rxamu9uf0xd1x ... 4.JPG?dl=0

Thanks!

Rob

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Re: Trying to decide on 2014 SV

Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:52 am

The car is essentially an 11 bar car, and the price should reflect that. If the range is more than adequate (not just barely adequate), negotiate.
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RTrueman
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Re: Trying to decide on 2014 SV

Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:42 am

Thanks for the reply, LeftieBiker! That was my thought too. I'm surprised that the battery capacity was that low with so few miles. I assume it's because of the hot weather.

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Re: Trying to decide on 2014 SV

Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:01 am

$13K is a lot of money for a 2014 with those numbers... You have to add to your calculations that in 4-5 years, you will have to change the battery ($6000).

I am starting to consider the purchase of a Leaf car similar to buying underwear.... You buy NEW. Used (at $12k+) will have given the original user the "best" years, and you get the worst years of its life.

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Re: Trying to decide on 2014 SV

Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:25 am

RTrueman wrote:Thanks for the reply, LeftieBiker! That was my thought too. I'm surprised that the battery capacity was that low with so few miles. I assume it's because of the hot weather.


Yes, Florida is almost as hard on leaf batteries as Arizona.
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Re: Trying to decide on 2014 SV

Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:32 am

I got a 14 SL Premium Package, 11500 miles for $13000; SOH=92%, 12 bars.
Your cells, all of them, have been heat hammered. I think they'll be a bit worse for the wear going forward.
Negotiate.

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Re: Trying to decide on 2014 SV

Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:52 am

powersurge wrote:$13K is a lot of money for a 2014 with those numbers... You have to add to your calculations that in 4-5 years, you will have to change the battery ($6000).

The claim at viewtopic.php?f=27&t=25882 is that a new battery is now $7K + labor and tax. That poster claims the total ends up being ~$8500. Hope it's only a fluke and not the actual price for a 24 kWh battery from Nissan going forward.

But yeah, before it was about $6K total: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17168&p=374490.

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Re: Trying to decide on 2014 SV

Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:25 am

RTrueman wrote:Hi Folks!

I’ve learned a lot from reading these threads and appreciate the help. I’m thinking about a 2014 SV with 10,124 miles and the premium package. I’ll be certified by the local dealer. I’m near Philadelphia, but the car came up as a government lease in Davie, FL. AHr is 56.74, SOH is 86.76% and Hx is 82.93%. The dealer wants $12,500. The car is clean and drives well, but I’m unsure of the battery specs and price. I have a 25 mile RT commute and currently drive a 2015 Ford F-250 we use to pull our travel trailer. I love my pickup, but it gets 11 mpg and is a pain to park in a normal lot.

What do you all think about the price?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rxamu9uf0xd1x ... 4.JPG?dl=0

Thanks!

Rob
Another example of Nissan moving vehicles north to reduce battery degradation. I wouldn't pay more than $10,000 for it. Used prices have risen recently, but that's crazy. I think others have reported paying $8-9K for four year old Leafs in the past. On the plus side, with a 25 mi RT commute you should be good for many years. Anyway, just do it and save yourself some serious money on fuel. Let's stop sending money to the oil barons and keep it in the US.
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Cold: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p243033"

RTrueman
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Re: Trying to decide on 2014 SV

Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:35 pm

Hi folks!

I'm on vacation in Flordia (not far from the original location of the Leaf!) so I haven't checked this group in a few days. Thank you all for your responses. I made an offer of $10,500 "all-in" (tax, tags, other stuff!). They're supposed to get back to me tomorrow. With a daughter starting to drive around this time next year and two boys following a couple years later, I like the idea of a car that doesn't go very far! Range-anxiety can be useful!

Regarding the battery, is it true that a battery degraded by heat will continue to degrade faster even after being moved out of the "hot" area? Interesting. Also, looking at battery capacities of various Leafs based on age, it looks like this vehicle is right on the curve for a four-year-old vehicle (https://pushevs.com/2018/03/20/nissan-l ... batteries/)

Anyway, thanks for the comments! I'll let you know what happens.

Rob

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Re: Trying to decide on 2014 SV

Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:06 pm

Regarding the battery, is it true that a battery degraded by heat will continue to degrade faster even after being moved out of the "hot" area? Interesting.


That isn't established. It wouldn't particularly surprise me with the pre-4/2013 packs, but I wouldn't expect it to be as much an issue with the later packs, except maybe for those that were in extreme heat for years in places like Arizona.
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