alozzy
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Re: I Want to buy a Leaf but...

Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:37 pm

I'm confused about the beep question, when unplugging the charge handle of the EVSE. There is no beep...

Are you pressing the FOB charge port door open button? There's no need to do that, just unplug and close the charge port door - no noise...
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RonDawg
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Re: I Want to buy a Leaf but...

Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:35 am

LTLFTcomposite wrote:Or get a Bolt.


OP has already mentioned that the Bolt is not available in the UK.
Blue Ocean 2012 Leaf SV, lost that 1st bar at 34 months/26,435 miles. Lease returned 2 months later. Final LeafStat figures: 225 Gids, 17.44 kWH, SOC 91.89%, SOH 82.36%, 69.49% HX, 54.57 Ahr, battery temp 61.8 F.
Now driving a 2015 VW eGolf SEL.

tricky98
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Re: I Want to buy a Leaf but...

Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:39 pm

alozzy wrote:I'm confused about the beep question, when unplugging the charge handle of the EVSE. There is no beep...

Are you pressing the FOB charge port door open button? There's no need to do that, just unplug and close the charge port door - no noise...



I unlocked the car (it had comfort access, so I pressed the button on the door handle) and put my coat into the car, I then walked to the front and tried to remove the charging cable and it would not come out.

I then pressed the button (I can't remember if it was on the fob or the one in the car) and I heard the solenoid move to release the cable.
Was it simply that I waited too long between unlocking the car and removing the cable?

tricky98
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Re: I Want to buy a Leaf but...

Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:47 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:Wait until 2019 when the "real" LEAF comes out with TMS. Everything 2018 and prior will be viewed as undesirable in the market, left to the dustbin of tech progress.

Or get a Bolt.


I would love to, but my current car needs to be returned in September.

It seems that next year, there will be a lot of cars available with longer range, but I can't wait that long...

I'll be leasing the car, so don't have to worry about resale value.

As for the Bolt - I would love one - I've tried looking if it can be imported, but does not seem possible.

alozzy
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Re: I Want to buy a Leaf but...

Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:23 pm

@tricky98

I then pressed the button (I can't remember if it was on the fob or the one in the car) and I heard the solenoid move to release the cable. Was it simply that I waited too long between unlocking the car and removing the cable?


You shouldn't need to press any buttons on the dash or on the FOB, unless you've engaged the auto-lock on the charger handle or there's been a change in design for the 2018 LEAF.

You should be able to simply press in the button on the top of the portable charger's (EVSE) handle and then unplug it - very minimal noise and no beeping (again, unless something has changed on the 2018 LEAF).
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Re: I Want to buy a Leaf but...

Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:27 pm

@tricky98 If you want to buy yourself some extra time, you could assume (takeover) someone else's lease (either an ICE or an EV if you are lucky) for a few months. That's what I would do in your shoes, if you think a better option will be available in the UK in a few months time.
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Reddy
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Re: I Want to buy a Leaf but...

Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:12 am

Since your profile says UK, I wouldn't worry about temperature-induced battery degradation. Unless you're driving 30,000 mi/yr, you will be fine for years. More likely, calendar degradation will dominate, but that's not terrible. Plus, with all those chargers along the way, you could get a decade or more of useful life. However, the beeping and where you park........ well, that's another matter. Remember: Happy Wife = Happy Life ;)

EDIT: Oops, you are driving 30K+ mi/yr. Well, scratch that. You'll need a new one in 4-5 years. You could lease for 2 years, then switch to the 2019 Leaf with (presumably) 200+ mi range.
Reddy
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tricky98
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Re: I Want to buy a Leaf but...

Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:01 pm

alozzy wrote:@tricky98

I then pressed the button (I can't remember if it was on the fob or the one in the car) and I heard the solenoid move to release the cable. Was it simply that I waited too long between unlocking the car and removing the cable?


You shouldn't need to press any buttons on the dash or on the FOB, unless you've engaged the auto-lock on the charger handle or there's been a change in design for the 2018 LEAF.

You should be able to simply press in the button on the top of the portable charger's (EVSE) handle and then unplug it - very minimal noise and no beeping (again, unless something has changed on the 2018 LEAF).


I stopped at the Nissan dealer on the way home, and checked -
the connector gets locked in and can only be released by pressing the button inside the car or on the fob. They say this was the same on the old model.

Having read a few more forums - I found a post saying that in North America the cables don't get locked into he car while charging?

In the UK (& the rest of Europe I think) the cable is locked into the car when you start to charge, by a pin going through the hole at the top of the plug. This is the reason the button needs to be pressed.

(On my A3 e-tron, the pin is disengaged when the car is unlocked, and then reengages after about 30 seconds, if the cable has not been removed.)

So...
I've had a crazy idea - and wonder if anyone knows if it would work -
If I cut the top of the plug, so that the pin won't stop the cable pulling out, I could just pull it out in the morning. Not sure if the car would still think the cable was connected, as it does if you just disconnect the other end of the cable from the power.

However, if this is how it works in North America, it should be ok here too?

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Re: I Want to buy a Leaf but...

Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:02 pm

Reddy wrote:Since your profile says UK, I wouldn't worry about temperature-induced battery degradation. Unless you're driving 30,000 mi/yr, you will be fine for years. More likely, calendar degradation will dominate, but that's not terrible. Plus, with all those chargers along the way, you could get a decade or more of useful life. However, the beeping and where you park........ well, that's another matter. Remember: Happy Wife = Happy Life ;)

EDIT: Oops, you are driving 30K+ mi/yr. Well, scratch that. You'll need a new one in 4-5 years. You could lease for 2 years, then switch to the 2019 Leaf with (presumably) 200+ mi range.



Yes -- 30,000 miles a year :)

Thats my plan - I will lease for 2-3 years and then get an improved one.

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Re: I Want to buy a Leaf but...

Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:38 pm

My 2011 did not have one, but my 2015 has a 3-position switch (lock, off, automatic) that locks the charging connector to the car all the time in the lock position, while actually charging in the automatic position, and never in the off position. You might want to check to see if the UK cars have a similar switch. If not, perhaps you could turn off the vehicle lock/unlock chime to prevent the noise when disconnecting the charging cable.
Gerry
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