LeftieBiker
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Re: How often do you charge?

Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:14 pm

If I drive down the hill and back for a grocery run and come back at 94%, I plug it in. Move the car in the driveway and it is still at 100%, plug it back in and let it re-balance. Life is too short to care or worry about battery longevity.


You are putting more work into abusing the battery than most people do to pamper it. But hey, different strokes...
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goldbrick
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Re: How often do you charge?

Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:31 am

I charge 2 or 3 times a week at work. Usually the SOC is in 10-20% range when I charge and I try to stop it around 80-85% but sometimes I forget and it gets up to mid-90's%. I've charged to 100% probably 5 times since I bought the car a year ago. I occasionally charge on weekends near a coffee shop I frequent at free L2 site, mainly because it's easy to park there ;).

I've charged twice at home with the supplied trickle charger but both times were within a month of buying the car and since then I haven't needed to do that. I've done 2 or 3 DCQC's at the dealer when I was running low but I only put in about 20-40% charge. Basically just enough to get me back to work Monday for the free L2 charging.

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: How often do you charge?

Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:30 am

2k1Toaster wrote:My Leaf is my largest cell phone on wheels that I own and I treat it as such. When I get somewhere with an outlet, I plug it in. If I drive down the hill and back for a grocery run and come back at 94%, I plug it in. Move the car in the driveway and it is still at 100%, plug it back in and let it re-balance. Life is too short to care or worry about battery longevity. After the 35k or 37k miles (haven't checked in a while) it is at, I still get 80-85 miles of VERY SPIRITED and routinely high speed driving (speed limit is 75mph posted, traffic flows at 5-15mph faster than that) per charge on nice day with all bars, but probably not for long.

If I lived on the equator I may treat it differently but it is just not worth it. 5-7 years of worry and hassle to prolong battery life by 20%? At current replacement rates ($8500) that's $1700. I'll pay $1700 to not worry about it and just drive the darn thing. And in my specific case being at above 85% at this age versus those that have spent a car's-life of worry means I am equal. So it has cost me nothing to not care.


Your post is a contradiction. I will say its not much of a hassle to plug in a car but to do so EVERY TIME you move it would start to grate on my nerves. I do agree that I charge my car like my cellphone and that is... when its convenient and I remember to do it. I have power packs lying around nearly everywhere in case I forget to charge in the car, the den, the bedroom or the living room (all of which have power outlets with cabling all ready to go)

But despite all that, my phone has seen 100% a half dozen times in 13ish months (Its a Pixel XL2 so whenever it came out) and all those were by accident. I generally want to charge it to the low 90's and plug it in when it goes below 30%.

Same with my car. So last charging sessions in reverse order;

Wed; QC 34 mins to 74% (normally not that long but was showing someone LEAF Spy so naturally had to check his car and compare numbers, etc. )
Tues; L2 90 mins to 41%
Mon; L2 90 mins to 51%
Sat; QC 22 mins to 82%
Wed QC 20 mins to 62%
Tues QC 12 mins to 65%
Sat QC to 74%


FYI; Only drove 933 miles in Sept. First time under 1000 miles since July 2015 (was out of town 2½ weeks that month) Would have been over 1000 miles but last minute transpo change removed a 250 mile trip from the itinerary.

I was forced to endure the "Triple Whammy"

Drove an SUV
that was a diesel
and a Chevy
:shock:
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GetOffYourGas
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Re: How often do you charge?

Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:24 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Same with my car. So last charging sessions in reverse order;

Wed; QC 34 mins to 74% (normally not that long but was showing someone LEAF Spy so naturally had to check his car and compare numbers, etc. )
Tues; L2 90 mins to 41%
Mon; L2 90 mins to 51%
Sat; QC 22 mins to 82%
Wed QC 20 mins to 62%
Tues QC 12 mins to 65%
Sat QC to 74%


That's a lot of quick-charging sessions. Given that you are only charging every other day on average, do you not have somewhere to charge at home? Or are you just trying to take full advantage of free public charging?
~Brian

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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: How often do you charge?

Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:24 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Same with my car. So last charging sessions in reverse order;

Wed; QC 34 mins to 74% (normally not that long but was showing someone LEAF Spy so naturally had to check his car and compare numbers, etc. )
Tues; L2 90 mins to 41%
Mon; L2 90 mins to 51%
Sat; QC 22 mins to 82%
Wed QC 20 mins to 62%
Tues QC 12 mins to 65%
Sat QC to 74%


That's a lot of quick-charging sessions. Given that you are only charging every other day on average, do you not have somewhere to charge at home? Or are you just trying to take full advantage of free public charging?


Cheaping out!! Before, I charged away from home a lot because I was away from home a lot! Now my weekly commute consists of less than 2/3rds of a single charge. As far as charging options at home, I have 4 EVSEs and they all work just fine. :)

The recent spate of L2 charges is due simply to weather not being convenient to me parking and walking which is a HUGE consideration for me. But I also am not in the area where I used to park, charge and walk (covered) as much any more and the more convenient options are simply not walkable in badder weather.

Right now I am roughly 135 L3, 95 L2. 2 months ago, it was closer to 115 L3, 50 L2....
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GetOffYourGas
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Re: How often do you charge?

Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:30 am

Enjoy it while you can! I for one hope for EVs to soon make up a significant portion of new vehicle sales. If that happens, free public charging will either disappear completely or having long lines to access.
~Brian

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2011 Torqeedo Travel 1003 electric outboard on a 22' sailboat
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: How often do you charge?

Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:48 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:Enjoy it while you can! I for one hope for EVs to soon make up a significant portion of new vehicle sales. If that happens, free public charging will either disappear completely or having long lines to access.


Nearly all my free charging is primarily NCTC so that finish line is in sight....28 months from now! There are a few freebie L2's the State provides but are rarely convenient for me. One is a few blocks from the theater 4 miles from my house but with another theater 9 miles from my house with reserved recliners at the same or lower price I only go there if I get a gift card for them or something like that.
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GetOffYourGas
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Re: How often do you charge?

Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:56 am

Ah. I never qualified for NCTC. Nissan didn't offer it in 2012 when I bought my Leaf, and Chevy doesn't have a program like that for Bolt drivers.

The problem I have is that several DCQC on which I rely for my trips are freebies installed by NYS. They put them in new "welcome centers" - one on the border with PA, one by Niagara Falls, and one at the edge of the Adirondack park. Being free, I fully expect them to either be out of order or have long lines very shortly.
~Brian

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2011 Torqeedo Travel 1003 electric outboard on a 22' sailboat
2012 Leaf SV (traded for Bolt)
2015 C-Max Energi (302A package)
2017 Bolt Premier

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: How often do you charge?

Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:59 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:Ah. I never qualified for NCTC. Nissan didn't offer it in 2012 when I bought my Leaf, and Chevy doesn't have a program like that for Bolt drivers.

The problem I have is that several DCQC on which I rely for my trips are freebies installed by NYS. They put them in new "welcome centers" - one on the border with PA, one by Niagara Falls, and one at the edge of the Adirondack park. Being free, I fully expect them to either be out of order or have long lines very shortly.


Yeah that is the ongoing issue with free. I rarely bother with those types of situations. It used to be easy for me when I was literally out at all hours of the day but now that I have a "regular" job, I am usually only out when everyone else is.
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 11,987 miles, 485 GIDs, 37.6 kwh 110.89 Ahr , SOH 96.00, Hx 115.22
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GetOffYourGas
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Re: How often do you charge?

Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:39 am

Until someone like EA or EVGo opens a few more stations, I have no choice but to depend on these. They are the only ones available. The alternative is L2, but who wants to sit at an L2 for hours in the middle of a road trip?
~Brian

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2011 Torqeedo Travel 1003 electric outboard on a 22' sailboat
2012 Leaf SV (traded for Bolt)
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