jadrake
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Fast charger - recommendations?

Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:03 am

Hi guys,

I'm just about to purchase my first Leaf: 2013 SV Premium package. I'm looking forward to getting to use it.

What I need is a 240V charger for home. My car does not have the large, fast charge port, only the small one.

Can anyone recommend a good charger that can be plugged in to a 240V socket (which I'll have mounted outside house)?

Thanks,
Adam

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Re: Fast charger - recommendations?

Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:25 pm

See my recommendation in your other post on the SV you want to buy...
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Re: Fast charger - recommendations?

Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:46 pm

The "charger" is on board the car. You are looking for an "EVSE" (electric vehicle supply equipment) or "charging station." What they do is provide the car's charger with a verified-safe supply of either 120 or 208-240 volts. In your case you want a charging station, which is wall mounted. I suggest Clipper Creek (US made, with a 3 year warranty) but a Zencar should be ok for a Chinese unit.


If the car had a QC port, then connecting it to a QC station would be connecting it to an actual external charger that bypasses the car's onboard unit and charges the pack directly.
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Re: Fast charger - recommendations?

Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:08 pm

Ah, right. I understand. Thanks for the clarification! So much to learn.

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Re: Fast charger - recommendations?

Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:25 pm

jadrake: I would suggest you especially consider a direct wired EVSE first if the electrical outlet box is outside -- and even if it is indoors. If you decide on a plug-in EVSE, make sure the dedicated circuit for it is protected by a (appropriately sized) GFCI breaker. The simpler and more fool-proof your setup, the better (remember and respect Murphy's Law!)

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Re: Fast charger - recommendations?

Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:08 pm

Some good 208/240-volt UL Listed EVSE units will not work on a GFCI-protected circuit so refer to the installation instructions for the particular EVSE you buy before you install the new circuit for it.
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Re: Fast charger - recommendations?

Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:53 pm

Look at Clipper Creek and Juicebox. Both made in the US. I chose Juicebox based on price, otherwise they're pretty equal.

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Re: Fast charger - recommendations?

Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:04 am

LeftieBiker wrote:The "charger" is on board the car. You are looking for an "EVSE" (electric vehicle service equipment) or "charging station." What they do is provide the car's charger with a verified-safe supply of either 120 or 208-240 volts. In your case you want a charging station, which is wall mounted.
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If the car had a QC port, then connecting it to a QC station would be connecting it to an actual external charger that bypasses the car's onboard unit and charges the pack directly.

Yep, although EVSE is Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment.

OP can look at:
viewtopic.php?p=332668#p332668
https://web.archive.org/web/20150619074 ... p?p=262630 - specifically the diagram by planet4ever
https://web.archive.org/web/20150604142 ... primer.pdf

OP is not looking to buy a "fast charger" either. Fast charging in the US is generally DC fast charging that is usually 20 kW or more. The cost of the hardware and installation would (assuming he has the necessary power at home) would almost certainly exceed the value of the OP's car. I posted some costs at http://www.mychevysparkev.com/forum/vie ... f=7&t=3753. Also see viewtopic.php?p=332063#p332063 and https://web.archive.org/web/20140515081 ... tion_costs since the RMI link is dead.

He's looking for an L2 EVSE. Leaf can only draw 6.6 kW out of the wall at max due to its OBC and that is the vehicle's max acceptance rate: https://www.clippercreek.com/three-thin ... arge-time/

In fact, Nissan likes to refer to 208 to 240 volt charging as "normal charge" in the manual as opposed to trickle (for 120 volts) and quick charge (for CHAdeMO, which is DC (usually fast) charging).

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Re: Fast charger - recommendations?

Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:39 am

Yep, although EVSE is Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment.


Fixed. I either learned that wrong or my memory corrupted it.
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Re: Fast charger - recommendations?

Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:12 am

At this point in the evolution of the Leaf, any charger is fine... They all work the same, and will all do the job. What you are paying extra is for timers, and being able to connect to the internet.... etc.

I like mine that just plug in and unplug whenever I feel like..... simple. Don't spend more than $400-450.

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