rcrw88
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Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Range anxiety..

Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:43 pm

Hey,

I commute 97km a day (60 miles). I'm considering a 2015 with just under 30k. I don't have charging at work but I may get it in the future. I'm okay with topping up at public stations until I can charge at work.

Does this car work for me? Test driving it showed 12 bars and 142km on range. Carfax looked okay.

cwerdna
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Re: Range anxiety..

Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:17 pm

Where are you located? Can you update your location info via your user name in the upper right > User Control Panel > Profile tab? That way, we don't need to ask in future posts/threads or do sleuthing to deduce it.

(I've been lobbying to mandate filling out the location field for years, to no avail.)

Of your daily driving, how much city vs. highway? Will you have the ability to charge at your home/destinations?

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rcrw88
Posts: 17
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:20 am
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Leaf Number: 4980
Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Re: Range anxiety..

Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:37 pm

Sorry I'll do that now. SW Ontario. 90% is "highway" with 90-100km/h. Home I'll have 240v, work I can maybe work out 110v but tip-toeing around asking my boss. Im okay with topping up for 30m-1hr a day while I run after work errands or read/work remotely.

LeftieBiker
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Re: Range anxiety..

Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:42 pm

If you'd be doing that commute in frigid weather, then the answer is "no." A good 24kwh Leaf has maybe 75 miles of range in mixed driving if you really drain it. Divide that in half for the worst-case Winter range. You would absolutely need workplace charging unless you live in a warm climate.
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rcrw88
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Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Re: Range anxiety..

Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:51 pm

Sorry, to clarify, my round trip is 97km. Not 97km each way!

jjeff
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Re: Range anxiety..

Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:09 pm

Leftie is correct, for the 24kwh Leaf the winter range can get down to 40 miles with cold and snowy roads not to mention maybe a strong headwind. For your 60 mile RT commute getting to work would be no problem, even in the worst condition but without a reliable source of charging at work, and preferably 240v, I probably wouldn't attempt it. True if you had QC or full amp L2 charging along the way it would help but note in extreme cold charging speed can be slower than warmer temps. For an emergency, sure you'd be able to do it with on the road charging but time ticks by pretty slow waiting for your car to charge :(
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Range anxiety..

Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:28 pm

rcrw88 wrote:Sorry, to clarify, my round trip is 97km. Not 97km each way!


I understood that. Half of 75 is 37.5.
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ripple4
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Re: Range anxiety..

Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:17 pm

Plan for if you need to do a half day or if there is a chance you need to leave early. I'm very luck that I have level 1 charging in the main parking at my work from a un-shared 5R15 circuit and I'm even more lucky because if I know a half day is coming up I can park near to the building and L2. Maybe I should insulate the bottom of the battery in the cooler months with foil faced 1/2" foam board.

Dooglas
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Re: Range anxiety..

Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:22 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
rcrw88 wrote:Sorry, to clarify, my round trip is 97km. Not 97km each way!

I understood that. Half of 75 is 37.5.

And 37.5 miles equals 60.4 km, while half of 97 km is 48.5 km. (apples to apples)
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Dooglas
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Re: Range anxiety..

Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:29 am

ripple4 wrote:Plan for if you need to do a half day or if there is a chance you need to leave early. I'm very luck that I have level 1 charging in the main parking at my work from a un-shared 5R15 circuit and I'm even more lucky because if I know a half day is coming up I can park near to the building and L2. Maybe I should insulate the bottom of the battery in the cooler months with foil faced 1/2" foam board.

As cwerdna commented, it is helpful if you include your location in your information to the left. If you are in a moderate climate it probably doesn't make appeciable difference. If you are in a place where serious winters occur, you will likely find that heat and defrosting is an even bigger energy eater.
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