RonDawg
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Re: Getting a Leaf, looking for advice between S and SV

Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:11 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:I'm going to make two more observations, then drop this. First, the US SV came with 16" wheels until 2015 - I wasn't trying to compare 2018 to 2018 model year only. IIRC, the OP was looking at used Leafs*. Second, the two critical differences between an S and an SV are the heatpump (now an option on the US SV) and telematics. Things like heated seats don't strike me as a critical difference when they are standard on one version and optional on another.

* "I am looking at used cars, the new ones are a bit too much to spend on a car that isn't driven much."


And I'm comparing 2019 models to 2019 models, and not used because 1. that makes it FAR too confusing given the changes over the various model years (and which aren't always consistent from country to country) and 2. I don't know of any way to pull up specs for previous years just for US-spec cars, much less any other country's spec.

If someone can show me proof that the pre-2018 Canadian spec Leaf S did NOT come with a hybrid heater, I'll stand corrected, and have said so previously in this forum when I've been corrected. I have no problem admitting I'm wrong, as long as you can show me proof that I'm wrong. I just wish you'd do the same.
Blue Ocean 2012 Leaf SV, lost that 1st bar at 34 months/26,435 miles. Lease returned 2 months later. Final LeafStat figures: 225 Gids, 17.44 kWH, SOC 91.89%, SOH 82.36%, 69.49% HX, 54.57 Ahr, battery temp 61.8 F.
Now driving a 2015 VW eGolf SEL.

LeftieBiker
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Re: Getting a Leaf, looking for advice between S and SV

Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:14 pm

If someone can show me proof that the pre-2018 Canadian spec Leaf S did NOT come with a hybrid heater, I'll stand corrected, and have said so previously in this forum when I've been corrected. I have no problem admitting I'm wrong, as long as you can show me proof that I'm wrong. I just wish you'd do the same.


Not very classy. First you insist that I prove your claim, based on something you think you remember, then you tell me I won't admit to being wrong. Whatever. I'm not going to read your posts for a while. Too much spam to delete.
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RonDawg
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Re: Getting a Leaf, looking for advice between S and SV

Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:24 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
If someone can show me proof that the pre-2018 Canadian spec Leaf S did NOT come with a hybrid heater, I'll stand corrected, and have said so previously in this forum when I've been corrected. I have no problem admitting I'm wrong, as long as you can show me proof that I'm wrong. I just wish you'd do the same.


Not very classy. First you insist that I prove your claim, based on something you think you remember, then you tell me I won't admit to being wrong. Whatever. I'm not going to read your posts for a while. Too much spam to delete.


The issue is that for some reason, if I disagree with you, it seems like you take it very personally. And I don't know why, I think we agree more than we disagree. But when we do disagree, we REALLY disagree.

My burden of proof is as little as "I have a 2016 Leaf S Canadian-spec and it does NOT have the hybrid heater." That's far more convincing than the arguments you've proposed as to why you claim it doesn't, that's all.
Blue Ocean 2012 Leaf SV, lost that 1st bar at 34 months/26,435 miles. Lease returned 2 months later. Final LeafStat figures: 225 Gids, 17.44 kWH, SOC 91.89%, SOH 82.36%, 69.49% HX, 54.57 Ahr, battery temp 61.8 F.
Now driving a 2015 VW eGolf SEL.

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Re: Getting a Leaf, looking for advice between S and SV

Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:33 am

This site is like an ocean of sharks... Throw in one drop of blood and you get a feeding hurricane frenzy. I love it.

alozzy
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Re: Getting a Leaf, looking for advice between S and SV

Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:16 am

Not picking sides, just want to settle the matter:

https://insideevs.com/2013-nissan-leaf- ... ly-summer/

See spec sheet at the bottom of that article...
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
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RonDawg
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Re: Getting a Leaf, looking for advice between S and SV

Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:14 am

alozzy wrote:Not picking sides, just want to settle the matter:

https://insideevs.com/2013-nissan-leaf- ... ly-summer/

See spec sheet at the bottom of that article...


Thank you. I stand corrected then.
Blue Ocean 2012 Leaf SV, lost that 1st bar at 34 months/26,435 miles. Lease returned 2 months later. Final LeafStat figures: 225 Gids, 17.44 kWH, SOC 91.89%, SOH 82.36%, 69.49% HX, 54.57 Ahr, battery temp 61.8 F.
Now driving a 2015 VW eGolf SEL.

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Re: Getting a Leaf, looking for advice between S and SV

Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:29 am

alozzy wrote:Not picking sides, just want to settle the matter:

https://insideevs.com/2013-nissan-leaf- ... ly-summer/

See spec sheet at the bottom of that article...


Thanks.
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instanoodles
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Re: Getting a Leaf, looking for advice between S and SV

Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:24 am

I just wanted to thank everyone for their input. My wife and I went over things again and even thought a small gas car would probably be cheaper we wanted an electric car. So we picked up a 2015 S with 27,000 kms and a battery health of about 94%. Other than how dead the steering wheel feels compared to my VW golf, the car is a pretty fun to drive around town. Have to charge the car about every 2-3 days and I am not all that light on the accelerator or the use of heat so that's great.

Thanks again.

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Re: Getting a Leaf, looking for advice between S and SV

Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:00 am

instanoodles wrote:I just wanted to thank everyone for their input. My wife and I went over things again and even thought a small gas car would probably be cheaper we wanted an electric car. So we picked up a 2015 S with 27,000 kms and a battery health of about 94%. Other than how dead the steering wheel feels compared to my VW golf, the car is a pretty fun to drive around town. Have to charge the car about every 2-3 days and I am not all that light on the accelerator or the use of heat so that's great.

Thanks again.


Congrats on the purchase. I've had my 2015S for the last 3.5 years and it has been the perfect commuter car for me. We've actually ended up using it almost exclusively on the weekends for running errands as well since it is easy to park and peppy between stop lights. I hope y'all enjoy it for years to come.

Just out of curiosity, did you get one with the QC package?
2015 S with Charge Package

instanoodles
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Re: Getting a Leaf, looking for advice between S and SV

Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:49 am

golfcart wrote:
instanoodles wrote:I just wanted to thank everyone for their input. My wife and I went over things again and even thought a small gas car would probably be cheaper we wanted an electric car. So we picked up a 2015 S with 27,000 kms and a battery health of about 94%. Other than how dead the steering wheel feels compared to my VW golf, the car is a pretty fun to drive around town. Have to charge the car about every 2-3 days and I am not all that light on the accelerator or the use of heat so that's great.

Thanks again.


Congrats on the purchase. I've had my 2015S for the last 3.5 years and it has been the perfect commuter car for me. We've actually ended up using it almost exclusively on the weekends for running errands as well since it is easy to park and peppy between stop lights. I hope y'all enjoy it for years to come.

Just out of curiosity, did you get one with the QC package?


Yup, the dealer that imported the car from the US only brings in ones that have the QC package. I am enjoying it quite a bit right now, I like how high up it is because it was hard to get out of my golf wagon. For the moment we have both cars insured so if we ever need them a the same time my wife always takes the Leaf so she is enjoying it as well.

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