Need new battery, nissan sucks

[cwerdna]

^^^
You can also refer to the '11 warranty booklet at https://owners.nissanusa.com/content/te ... ooklet.pdf.

There are also snapshots if the page goes 404: https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://o ... ooklet.pdf.

[trobious]

Is that booklet only for the US? I live in Canada, have 9 capacity bars and the dealer says my warranty was only 5 years. If 8 years is true, I have until September 1, 2019!

EDIT: I just checked the glove box and my warranty booklet says 8 years or 160,000 km. I guess I have to take the booklet in to show them and see what they say.

I just bought it for $8,500 CAD (Super Black 2011 SL with 129,000 km)

[SageBrush]

Is that booklet only for the US? I live in Canada, have 9 capacity bars and the dealer says my warranty was only 5 years. If 8 years is true, I have until September 1, 2019!

EDIT: I just checked the glove box and my warranty booklet says 8 years or 160,000 km. I guess I have to take the booklet in to show them and see what they say.

I just bought it for $8,500 CAD (Super Black 2011 SL with 129,000 km)

The 8 yr/160km warranty is for defects in manufacturing. Battery degradation is not applicable.

[cwerdna]

Is that booklet only for the US? I live in Canada, have 9 capacity bars and the dealer says my warranty was only 5 years. If 8 years is true, I have until September 1, 2019!

EDIT: I just checked the glove box and my warranty booklet says 8 years or 160,000 km. I guess I have to take the booklet in to show them and see what they say.

I just bought it for $8,500 CAD (Super Black 2011 SL with 129,000 km)

The 8 yr/160km warranty is for defects in manufacturing. Battery degradation is not applicable.

Even though the Klee class action lawsuit was for US customers, I'm reasonably sure that countries outside the US also retroactively received a capacity warranty on '11 and '12 Leafs around the same time we got ours in the US. So, it'd probably be 5 years/100K km.

What Sage said in bold is correct.

[trobious]

Thanks so much! Good thing I only commute a 14 km round trip, park in a garage and put less than 10,000 km on the car per year! It should last as long as the Prius!

[Nubo]

^^^
You can also refer to the '11 warranty booklet at https://owners.nissanusa.com/content/te ... ooklet.pdf.

There are also snapshots if the page goes 404: https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://o ... ooklet.pdf.

As I recall, there was also a completely separate agreement the buyer had to sign for the battery, 3 or 4 pages that went into detail about how all batteries age, many variables, etc... This was when I leased in Dec 2011, so long before the battery debacle and lawsuit there was already a rearguard CYA movement in motion within Nissan that foreshadowed the events to come.

[powersurge]

Truth is that none of the cars with degraded batteries have a case for a FREE battery. We need to either sell it, or cough up the $$$ to keep using the car for another 8 years.... For $1000/ year, it is not such a bad deal....

I'm going to do it when my number is up...

[alembic42]

hi, i'm trying to upgrade my 2012 LEAF with a 2015 battery and having problems. can anyone clue me in on this?

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=28067

Thanks

[SageBrush]

Truth is that none of the cars with degraded batteries have a case for a FREE battery. We need to either sell it, or cough up the $$$ to keep using the car for another 8 years.... For $1000/ year, it is not such a bad deal....

I'm going to do it when my number is up...

Nissan is charging about $400 a kWh for a battery that degrades by the month.
By the time you have to either swap or trash your car I expect retail car kWh costs to be $50 - $100. We'll see if you sing the same tune then.

[OrientExpress]

The reason that the early Gen 1 LEAFs battery replacements cost so much is that they are an obsolete part that hasn't been manufactured since 2017. They are also a very low demand part and as the remaining NOS parts are expended, replacements will be remanufactured parts which will also be very expensive to do as they are essentially bespoke BTO parts. The universe of 2010-2013 vehicles still in service continues to decline as with the demand for battery replacements as do warranty replacements being outside the warranty guarantee. As the technology continues to improve there is little if any incentive to continue to support these obsolete early vehicles batteries except as required by law.

In 2016 and 2017, Nissan did offer a subsidized program for those that were out of warranty but did want to replace their battery. That program's funds were a one-time only limited program and has since ended.

It does look like there may be a third party solution in the works, and those early LEAF owners can look to that as a solution. Otherwise, it is probably worth cutting your losses, and moving on to another BEV.