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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:20 pm

Via GCC:
Hyundai Motor reveals next generation fuel cell concept at Geneva Motor Show; new SUV Fuel Cell model set for launch in 2018
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/03/20170307-hyundaife.html

. . . The FE Concept showcases Hyundai Motor’s fourth-generation of hydrogen fuel cell technology . . . When compared with the current generation system used in the Tucson ix35 Fuel Cell, the new technology is 20% lighter, and achieves 10% greater efficiency. In addition, the power density of the fuel cell stack is increased by 30%, boosting the car’s range significantly. . . .

The car is designed to run for more than 800 kilometers (497 miles) between refueling, acknowledging the current limited hydrogen infrastructure. Elements of the FE Fuel Cell Concept will influence an SUV Fuel Cell model set for launch in 2018, which will feature advanced Hyundai Smart Sense driver assistance technologies, alongside an extensive hydrogen-powered range. . . .

Assuming that 800 km (497 miles) is on either the NEDC or the Japanese test, multiplying by 0.7 translates to about 348 miles EPA, 83 miles/31% better than the Tucson.

Another article: http://insideevs.com/hyundai-debuts-497-mile-futuristic-fe-fuel-cell-concept/
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:08 pm

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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:57 pm

Air Products lowers Hydrogen to $9.99 per kg at 5 stations in CA. Cites increased usage volume and improved in station tech as reasons for the drop. No indication if pricing will roll out to other Air Products stations.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/03 ... -airp.html
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:44 pm

jhm614 wrote:Air Products lowers Hydrogen to $9.99 per kg at 5 stations in CA. Cites increased usage volume and improved in station tech as reasons for the drop. No indication if pricing will roll out to other Air Products stations.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/03 ... -airp.html

Already mentioned in the Ca. H2 stations topic. IIRR, there was already one station charging $9.59 or maybe it was $9.49/kg before this, but this was the first announcement of sub-$10/kg H2 by a chain.
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:19 pm

Via GCC, lab results but moving towards commercialization:
Cambridge team demonstrates light-driven photoreforming of unprocessed biomass to H2 at room temperature
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/03 ... ridge.html

A team of scientists at the University of Cambridge has reported the light-driven photoreforming of cellulose, hemicellulose and lignin to H2 using semiconducting cadmium sulfide quantum dots in alkaline aqueous solution.

The system operates under visible light, is stable beyond six days and is even able to reform unprocessed lignocellulose, such as wood and paper, under solar irradiation at room temperature, presenting an inexpensive route to drive aqueous proton reduction to H2 through waste biomass oxidation. . . .

The team achieved high rates of H2 evolution, without the photocorrosion of CdS or noble-metal co-catalysts, through use of highly basic conditions that synergistically enabled formation of robust CdS/CdOx and dissolution of lignocellulose.

The oxidation reaction generates CO2 that is sequestered as carbonate, resulting in an overall negative CO2 balance in the atmosphere when taking into account the CO2 fixation required for biomass growth.

Noting that the system’s tolerance to a range of substrates is “particularly appealing” for H2 generation without need for lignocellulose processing, the researchers are now focusing on replacing the Cd with a more environmentally benign metal. . . .

With the help of Cambridge Enterprise, the commercialization arm of the University, a UK patent has been granted and talks are under way with a potential commercial partner.
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:24 pm

Via GCC:
Successful first test run of Alstom Coradia iLint fuel cell train; signed letters of intent for 60 trainshttp://www.greencarcongress.com/2 ... lstom.html


Alstom successfully performed the first test run at 80 km/h (50 mph) of the fuel cell passenger train Coradia iLint (earlier post) on its own test track in Salzgitter, Lower Saxony (Germany). An extensive test campaign will be conducted in Germany and Czech Republic in the coming months before the Coradia iLint performs its first passenger test runs on the Buxtehude–Bremervörde–Bremerhaven–Cuxhaven (Germany) route beginning of 2018. . . .

The hydrogen used for the test runs is the by-product of an industrial process, which is reasonably reused as a waste product. In the long term, Alstom aims to support the hydrogen production from wind energy. . . .
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:56 pm

Via GCC:
Hydrogenics to supply electrolyzers to Doosan Babcock for Aberdeen
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/03 ... enics.html

Hydrogenics Corporation . . . has been awarded a contract by Doosan Babcock Limited to install two of its HySTAT100 electrolyzers, along with compression and storage equipment, at the new Aberdeen Exhibition and Conference Centre (AECC) in Aberdeen, Scotland. The Hydrogenics electrolyzers will convert fluctuating power—up to 1 megawatt—into 20 kilograms of hydrogen per hour, at the highest efficiency possible, complementing the combined heat and power natural gas fuel cell application installed at the AECC.

Hydrogenics expects to deliver the electrolyzers in late 2017, providing more than 300 kilograms of hydrogen storage capacity. . . .
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:38 pm

SoCal (South Bay) update:

1. Removal of Shell H2 pumps on 190th & Western across from Toyota USA corporate.
2. New Honda Clarity billboard near NB 405 in Hawthorne.

One exits and two (Honda/Hyundai) continue?

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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:13 pm

lorenfb wrote:SoCal (South Bay) update:

1. Removal of Shell H2 pumps on 190th & Western across from Toyota USA corporate.
2. New Honda Clarity billboard near NB 405 in Hawthorne.

One exits and two (Honda/Hyundai) continue?

Per the CAFCP station status link,
This station is closed for upgrade and planned to reopen in July 2017. A mobile fueler is available 7 days a week and is behind the visitor center.
http://m.cafcp.org/content/torrance

It appears they're upgrading this dem/val site to a full retail station.
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Re: Hydrogen and FCEVs discussion thread

Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:30 pm

Via GCC:
Ascend Energy and Atrex Energy demo tubular SOFC electric ATV, fueled by natural gas
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/03 ... scend.html

. . . The project was supported by a $146,283 Energy Innovations Small Grant (EISG) from the California Energy Commission.

Ascend worked with Tructronics Inc., idea Solutions Design, and JB Mechanical to integrate and install a commercial 1000 Watt Atrex Energy fuel cell power generator fueled with compressed natural gas in an all-electric Polaris Ranger ATV. ATVs are in common use in California farms, ranches and orchards as a utility vehicle but the gasoline-fueled versions make a significant contribution to poor air quality in the farm regions of the state.

The SOFC electric ATV has been in durability, performance and emissions testing for months and has exceeded all expected results, the partners said. With more than 100 miles on the vehicle, the range and durability has been shown. The range increased 300% using a real world 2.3-mile (3.7 km) off-road test loop; fuel consumption was one-third that of the conventional gasoline version under the same conditions; and the fuel cell vehicle had no detectable nitrogen oxide emissions (a key component of smog) in contrast to the 100+ parts per million of nitrogen oxides in the exhaust from the gasoline vehicle.

The demonstration also showed the vehicle could be the most economical form of a fuel cell hybrid in terms of fuel cost. A conventional vehicle with a gasoline engine would use $9 of fuel to go 100 miles. A hybrid electric-type vehicle would require $7.50 worth of fuel. A hydrogen fuel cell car at today’s prices of hydrogen would use $20 of fuel for the same trip. An equivalent ceramic fuel cell vehicle would use only $6 worth of fuel.

The next step is to test the vehicle using propane, a much more common fuel found on farms, and see if the results are similar. . . .
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