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Re: Business model of the NOT "free...forever" Tesla DC network

Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:52 pm

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EVDRIVER wrote:Good, now it won't be a bunch of locals charging all the time. $.26 in CA is still lower than PGE reality rates.
You're wrong, of course.

I've never paid PG&E more than 18 cents a kWh (off-peak) myself.

But more to the point, this was just the first of what will undoubtedly be many future rate hikes by TSLA.

Courtesy of the TSLA unregulated monopoly electricity supplier, ironically known as superchargers...

I wonder how long it will be before model 3 owners will begin to demand to be free to use public DC charge sites, and how tenaciously will TSLA fight emancipation?
I'm wrong because your off peak rate is $.18? That's comical. Yes it will help at SC stations, do you own a Tesla, what is your SC use experience?

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Re: Business model of the NOT "free...forever" Tesla DC network

Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:21 am

Tesla’s First 400 kWh Of Free Supercharging For Model S & X Ends
https://insideevs.com/teslas-free-super ... -s-x-ends/
According to the latest news, cars sold on November 2, 2018 and on don’t get any free Supercharging credit, so 100% of the recharges are paid (at least if the owner does not receive some promotion like the 6-months of free Supercharging from the referral program).

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Re: Business model of the NOT "free...forever" Tesla DC network

Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:45 am

Tesla's referral perks are going away
https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/17/tes ... l-program/
"Elon Musk says the free charging benefits are adding 'too much cost to the cars.'"

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Re: Business model of the NOT "free...forever" Tesla DC network

Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:02 pm

Tesla hikes Supercharger prices worldwide to reflect changing costs
https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/19/tes ... worldwide/

Tesla drastically increases Supercharger prices around the world
https://electrek.co/2019/01/18/tesla-in ... er-prices/

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Re: Business model of the NOT "free...forever" Tesla DC network

Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:59 pm

The 1st item happened recently but the news item after this is more surprising.

No more free unlimited supercharging for Tesla used vehicles
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... es.160393/

Free Unlimited Supercharging Is Back For Tesla Model S & Model X
https://insideevs.com/news/363260/free- ... model-s-x/

Obviously, this is a demand lever. I wonder how long this will stick?

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Re: Business model of the NOT "free...forever" Tesla DC network

Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:39 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:59 pm
The 1st item happened recently but the news item after this is more surprising.

No more free unlimited supercharging for Tesla used vehicles
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... es.160393/

Free Unlimited Supercharging Is Back For Tesla Model S & Model X
https://insideevs.com/news/363260/free- ... model-s-x/

Obviously, this is a demand lever. I wonder how long this will stick?
What's different this time is that FUSC is (reported to be) limited to the initial buyer of the car, which might be three to five years on average. It serves to differentiate the higher end S and X from the 3 and Y and it seems likely that S/X buyers are more apt to have and use home charging than 3/Y buyers.

So, my take is that the cost to Tesla for this promotion figures to be fairly small. It might become a permanent feature of the S and X, although that's a WAG and the only thing certain about Tesla is constant change! [Watch them pull FUSC in a few months and prove me wrong...]
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Re: Business model of the NOT "free...forever" Tesla DC network

Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:00 pm

I suspect that this demand lever that they are pulling is getting people with older Model S and X to trade in for a new car. As long as they trade in the car, it won't add any long term cost. If the car is sold in the private market it will remain free unlimited supercharging, but if it gets traded in, Tesla has been removing that feature when they resell it. So getting cars traded in for new, the number of these free cars does not change and they get a new car sale. I think if they find that the older cars are not getting traded and they just add to the total of free unlimited vehicles the program will stop.
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