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Re: CA. retail H2 fuel stations

Fri May 25, 2018 4:23 pm

The Newport Beach station has been converted to full retail (i.e. the dispensers now accept debit/credit cards) and is now open, #35 (#23 in SoCal). Per the station website and presumably owing to this being one of the early dem/val stations with older tech,
This is a limited performance station. Refueling time will be longer and your range may be less than normal especially after heavy station use. Both dispensers are now operational for H70.
https://m.cafcp.org/content/newport-beach
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Re: California retail H2 fuel stations

Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:39 pm

CARB has now released the
2018 Annual Evaluation of Fuel Cell
Electric Vehicle Deployment &
Hydrogen Fuel Station Network
Development
https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/zevprog/ab8/ab8_report_2018_print.pdf?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

I'll post highlights after I've read it.
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Re: California retail H2 fuel stations

Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:51 pm

Findings from the Executive summary of CARB's 2018 H2/FCEV report @ https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/zevprog/ab8/ab8_report_2018_print.pdf?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

You'll have to read the report itself for all the details behind the findings.

Finding 1: California’s hydrogen fueling network has continued to mature with growth in the number
of stations, continued emphasis on a fully retail customer experience, and private investment in
station development.

Finding 2: Station development progress in the past year has remained almost completely on-schedule
compared to projections provided a year ago.

Finding 3: Auto manufacturer projections for future FCEV deployments have recovered substantially
from 2017 projections.

Finding 4: CHIT-based analyses provide recommendations for State co-funded hydrogen station location
priorities in markets across California that help meet the 2025 goals of Executive Order B-48-18. These
locations additionally ensure the developing network meets coverage and capacity needs to enable the
2030 goals expressed by the California Fuel Cell Partnership.

Finding 5: Scenario analysis through CHIT demonstrates that a path towards the EO goal of 200 stations
and the CaFCP goal of 1,000 stations can meet the hydrogen coverage, capacity, and convenience
needs of all of California’s communities, identified as Disadvantaged Communities or otherwise.

Finding 6: The pace of station development needed to meet EO B-48-18 should ensure sufficient
hydrogen fueling capacity well into 2025.

Finding 7: Due to the anticipated acceleration in hydrogen fueling network growth, sufficient fueling
capacity and coverage should be available by 2025 to enable FCEV deployments at a rate two to three
times greater than currently-reported plans.

Finding 8: Responses to the Clean Vehicle Rebate Project consumer survey provide valuable insight to
confirm fundamental assumptions and analysis methods in CHIT.

Finding 9: California’s State co-funded hydrogen fueling network is on track to meet or exceed
renewable requirements per Senate Bill 150

Finding 10: Achieving 200 stations by 2025 places California on a path to enable the CaFCP goals of
1,000 stations and 1,000,000 FCEVs by 2030 and requires acceleration of the annual station funding and
deployment rate. CARB recommends that the Energy Commission increases funds to hydrogen fueling
station deployments in its next funding program(s) to the maximum feasible extent.


Conclusions:

Conclusions
The past year has been marked by a significant positive shift in the outlook for FCEV deployment and hydrogen
fueling network development. Multiple analyses and industry commitments are pointing toward a desire for
near-term acceleration to build upon the accomplishments made to date. Within California, this would build
upon observations made only a year ago that the FCEV market had moved out of its pre-commercial phase and
into an early commercial market phase. Sustaining forward progress now requires acceleration, including financial
support and the development of a policy environment that enables growth. The right conditions can enable not
only a viable hydrogen fueling network and FCEV market, but one that is self-sustaining and independent of
ongoing State financial support. Governor Brown’s Executive Order B-48-18 provides guideposts for establishing
these conditions, and the CaFCP Vision for 2030 provides a scenario for ultimate success.

The transition to heightened ambitions for FCEV success is only possible because of the accomplishments
made to date. Hydrogen fueling network development and FCEV deployment in the past year have
maintained pace from previous years’ projections, indicating growing maturity in the hydrogen-powered
transportation system in California. Moreover, it appears that today’s FCEV drivers and the auto
manufacturers who supply the vehicles have been able to make greater use of a more limited network
than was previously envisioned. In 2012, the California Fuel Cell Partnership’s “A California Roadmap: The
Commercialization of Hydrogen Fuel Vehicles” [29] envisioned that a network of 68 hydrogen fueling stations
would need to be in place in order to begin commercial sales of vehicles.

Approximately this number of stations are currently funded, but even with 36 of the 64 open and providing
retail sales of hydrogen fuel to the public, California’s FCEV fleet has managed to grow to thousands of
vehicles. As more vehicles are deployed, the overall station network utilization rate increases, and the
business case for the Open-Retail stations improves. This provides vital proof of the future potential to
continue to improve as station technology develops to allow larger-capacity stations at lower cost, demand
from an ever-growing FCEV fleet becomes firmer, and economies of scale become increasingly apparent.

As the analyses of this report indicate, the culmination of these recent developments is a refreshed vision
of California’s hydrogen transportation future. This new vision builds on the extensive experience gained
within the state and acknowledges the potential for long-term industry development goals. Due to these
demonstrated successes and continued State support, there has been an inflection point in the conversations
around hydrogen fuel and FCEVs within California. The consensus outlook from industry and public
stakeholders is increasingly positive, and California stands well-positioned for FCEVs to step into the role they
must ultimately play in order for the State’s long-term GHG reduction goals to become a reality. . . .
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Re: California retail H2 fuel stations

Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:41 am

Some more quotes from the Executive Summary of CARB's 2018 H2/FCEV report:
Over the past twelve months, there has been a significant
shift in the momentum of California’s hydrogen fueling
station network development and Fuel Cell Electric Vehicle
(FCEV) deployment. Growth of the on-the-road FCEV fleet
has continued to accelerate year-over-year, with 4,411 FCEVs
registered to the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) as of
April 4, and the most recent industry estimates indicating a
total of 4,819 vehicles deployed through May of 2018
[1]. The
hydrogen fueling network has gained seven additional OpenRetail
stations, for totals of 36 Open-Retail and 28 additional
funded stations. . . .

The California Energy Commission (Energy Commission) also
accomplished a first-of-its-kind milestone for the State, awarding
grant funding to a hydrogen production facility to supply two
tons per day of 100% renewable hydrogen to California’s growing
network of retail fueling stations
. This project begins to address
the potential gap in hydrogen production capacity identified in
last year’s Annual Evaluation, especially in-state and renewable
hydrogen production capacity.

Projections for FCEVs and hydrogen stations in the future
have greatly increased. In January, Governor Brown issued
Executive Order (EO) B-48-18. Among other provisions, the order sets an additional hydrogen station network
development target of 200 stations by 2025
[2]. This is double the current target in Assembly Bill 8 (AB 8; Perea,
Chapter 201, Statues of 2013) but set only two years later [3]. Meeting this ambitious target clearly requires
accelerated effort on the part of the State to ensure its achievement. The EO additionally sets a target for 5
million ZEVs by 2030; FCEVs are expected to comprise a significant portion of this future ZEV fleet.

Moreover, the public/private California Fuel Cell Partnership (CaFCP) members recently published an equally
ambitious shared vision for the potential growth of the industry to 2030. In their vision, the targets of the
Executive Order are a stepping stone on the path to 1,000,000 FCEVs on the road by 2030, supported by a
network of 1,000 hydrogen stations
[4]. Predicated on the continuing development of regulatory and policy
environments sufficient to sustain this remarkably swift growth, CaFCP members anticipate:

    • diversification of hydrogen and fuel cells into other transportation sectors
    • a retail fueling experience that provides station and network convenience
    on par with today’s gasoline station network
    • hydrogen fuel that is cost-competitive with gasoline on a per-mile basis
    • the potential for increased renewable hydrogen production, and
    • a transition away from government financial support and towards industry financial self-reliance

Accomplishing these goals in such a short period of time also requires a significant change in the pace of
developments going forward, along with combined resolve and commitment from all stakeholders. . . .

Projections for on-the-road FCEV counts now exceed 23,000 in 2021 and 47,000 in 2024.
These projections represent increases over the previously reported data. While the total
number of vehicles projected in the long-term continues to grow, a path towards the goals of
the CaFCP members’ vision has not yet been conveyed through the annual survey process.

    • CARB’s scenario analysis for hydrogen fueling station network buildout in support of the CaFCP
    2030 vision can be used as a reference for evaluating proposed station locations in future funding
    programs. Developing a network similar to this reference scenario ensures balanced growth
    between markets that will need a high density of high-capacity stations to supply overlapping
    coverage and providing initial coverage in markets projected to grow soon after today’s
    first-adopter markets are established. Convenience of station locations on par with today’s
    network of 8,000 gasoline fueling stations can be achieved with 1,000 properly-placed
    hydrogen stations to enable both short- and long-distance travel
    . In addition, the network in
    this scenario is able to ensure nearly every member of a Disadvantaged Community (DAC) has
    convenient access to a hydrogen fueling station near their home by 2030, thereby broadening
    the population for whom a switch to a zero-emission FCEV is a viable transportation choice.

    • Hydrogen station network growth must accelerate between now and 2024 in order to meet both
    the 2025 goals of EO B-48-18 and the 2030 goals of the CaFCP. The required acceleration would
    ensure that hydrogen fueling network coverage and capacity lead FCEV deployment and hydrogen
    demand. Therefore, if the station network goals are met, there will be ample support for auto
    manufacturers to accelerate their FCEV deployment
    plans well beyond the rates reported to date.

    • The projected hydrogen refueling station network will
    continue to meet the minimum renewable
    implementation requirements of Senate Bill 1505
    (SB 1505; Lowenthal, Chapter 877, Statutes
    of 2006) [5]. By 2024, the network will dispense
    hydrogen with at least a 34% renewable
    content and the potential to reach 39% according
    to recent industry stakeholder indications. . . .
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Re: California retail H2 fuel stations

Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:29 pm

GCC:
Three new hydrogen fueling stations open in California in one week
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/12/20181225-cah2.html

Three new hydrogen filling stations opened in California within the span of one week, bringing the total to 39. The new stations are in Palo Alto, at LAX (Los Angeles International Airport), and in the Sacramento area.

    The Citrus Heights hydrogen station, the 37th retail hydrogen station in California, is located in the greater Sacramento area. Developed by Shell, the station will will be open 24 hours a day and is located at 6141 Greenback Lane, Citrus Heights, CA 95621.

    The station is one of a few that has two fueling positions at H70. Many stations built before #37 have two nozzles, one dispensing at H70 and the other at H35. . . .

    The Palo Alto hydrogen station, the 38th retail hydrogen station in California, is located in Silicon Valley. Developed by Air Liquide, the station is located at 3601 El Camino Real, Palo Alto, CA 94036

    The LAX hydrogen station, the 39th retail hydrogen station in California, was also developed by Air Liquide, and is located at 10400 Aviation Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90045.

The new hydrogen station is one block south of the LAX’s primary entrance, Century Boulevard, two blocks from the 405 Freeway, and can be easily accessed from La Cienega Boulevard, several blocks north of the 105 Freeway.

I must have missed one, because the last station I had opening before this (all the way back in May) was the conversion of Newport Beach, #35. checking the site map at CAFCP it does show 39. I think the one missing is the conversion to full retail of the AC Transit station at Emeryville (and that's currently offline). There should be a considerable increase in the rate of station openings in 2019, as the second round of grants is now taking effect, and the schedule is for 59 stations to be open by the end of 2019, virtually all of which have been awarded to companies with the experience and financial resources to get them done on time.
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Re: California retail H2 fuel stations

Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:46 pm

GCC:
California Energy Commission and ARB report on status of hydrogen refueling station network
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/01/20190103-cah2.html

. . . Among the key takeaways of the 2018 report:

    This year, CARB approved a package of updates to the Low Carbon Fuel Standard (LCFS) regulation and included a new provision for Hydrogen Refueling Infrastructure (HRI) credit generation. HRI credits offer incentives for accelerated station deployment by providing a relatively assured revenue stream to offset part of the cost of station ownership during the early low- utilization period of the life of a new station. Combined with purchasing station equipment in larger quantities, the LCFS update may help achieve economies of scale.

    Hydrogen stakeholders are focused on scaling up infrastructure to meet the longer-term vision of “a network of 1,000 hydrogen stations and a fuel cell vehicle population of up to 1,000,000 vehicles by 2030.”

    California has 38 ARFVTP-funded open retail stations.

    The total daily hydrogen refueling station network capacity increased from 15,000 to 17,000 kilograms in one year. This increase in capacity is due to an increase in the nameplate capacity design, from 310 kilograms per day to 500 kilograms per day, for a dozen funded stations.

    There are 5,658 FCEVs sold or leased in California as of 1 December 2018. Based on auto manufacturer surveys, CARB projects 23,600 FCEVs in California by 2021 and 47,200 by 2024. A pathway to 1 million FCEVs by 2030 is not yet defined.

    The time spent before station developers filed an initial permit application decreased substantially due to critical milestone requirements.

    By 2024, the station network will need to provide nearly double today’s funded fueling capacity.

    The full remaining ARFVTP funding allocations will be needed to meet and exceed the 100-station goal by 2024.

    Public support and public funding remain necessary to achieve the 100-station goal, and more funding will be needed to support the 200-station goal. . . .

Direct Link to report:
Joint Agency Staff Report
on Assembly Bill 8: 2018
Annual Assessment of
Time and Cost Needed to
Attain 100 Hydrogen
Refueling Stations in
California

https://www.energy.ca.gov/2018publications/CEC-600-2018-008/CEC-600-2018-008.pdf
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Re: California retail H2 fuel stations

Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:37 pm

Closest H2 fueling is well over 600 miles away from me.

LEAFs and M3s seem about equally common. Most of the M3s are new, of course.
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