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CHAdeMO bi-directional

Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:59 am

Appears that manufacturers of V2G equipment state that bi-directional DC current (via CHAdeMO) can only be obtained in 2014 Leafs and after. Does anyone know what change occurred (if this is actually true)? Will be a disappointment to me as an owner of a 2012 Leaf!
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Re: CHAdeMO bi-directional

Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:08 am

Marktm wrote:Appears that manufacturers of V2G equipment state that bi-directional DC current (via CHAdeMO) can only be obtained in 2014 Leafs and after....


Source?

Nissan has been demonstrating using the LEAF as a (CHAdeMO accessable) power source since ~2011, IIRC.
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Re: CHAdeMO bi-directional

Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:11 am

A product is offered in Japan only so far as I know. Perhaps that is changing ?
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Re: CHAdeMO bi-directional

Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:32 pm

The actual V2G spec wasn't officially release until 27 March 2017.

It would be doubtful anything previously built will work with anything except some Nissan branded product.

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Re: CHAdeMO bi-directional

Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:29 pm

edatoakrun wrote:
Marktm wrote:Appears that manufacturers of V2G equipment state that bi-directional DC current (via CHAdeMO) can only be obtained in 2014 Leafs and after....


Source?

Nissan has been demonstrating using the LEAF as a (CHAdeMO accessable) power source since ~2011, IIRC.


I was looking into the V2H offering from Setec Power (China). I went back to the original statement from them - that the 2013 and after Leaf that will work with their 3kw "home" unit via the CHAdeMO connection - but not the 2011/2012.
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Re: CHAdeMO bi-directional

Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:38 pm

Regarding the Setec Power V2H system, I accidentally bought two. Apparently I'm not clever enough to use Alibaba.com correctly. Anyone have interest in buying my second one? Around $3K with shipping. It is only 220V AC output though, so can only handle universal charging devices (most phones and laptops). Don't expect to be able to plug in your fridge.

But so far the first one works well.

Also, I can verify that only MY2013 and newer works with V2H in US/EU markets.

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Re: CHAdeMO bi-directional

Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:17 am

russellv wrote:Regarding the Setec Power V2H system, I accidentally bought two. Apparently I'm not clever enough to use Alibaba.com correctly. Anyone have interest in buying my second one? Around $3K with shipping. It is only 220V AC output though, so can only handle universal charging devices (most phones and laptops). Don't expect to be able to plug in your fridge.

But so far the first one works well.

Also, I can verify that only MY2013 and newer works with V2H in US/EU markets.


What is the power output rating of the extra unit you have? I assume 220V, 50 Hz (or would it be 240V, 60 Hz?) so it would probably work for 240V appliances that are not frequency dependent, but how many watts?
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Re: CHAdeMO bi-directional

Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:36 pm

Having trouble sharing full spec for some reason, but here are the basics

AC Output Power 3kW
AC Output voltage 100-260ACV
Frequency: 50/60Hz
Current: 15A
Output voltage accurate: 200V±6%

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Re: CHAdeMO bi-directional

Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:18 pm

russellv wrote:Regarding the Setec Power V2H system, I accidentally bought two. Apparently I'm not clever enough to use Alibaba.com correctly. Anyone have interest in buying my second one? Around $3K with shipping. It is only 220V AC output though, so can only handle universal charging devices (most phones and laptops). Don't expect to be able to plug in your fridge.
An autotransformer will produce split 120V/240V from 240VAC. I have a couple rated for 4500 VA which would work fine in this application. Then you could run any household device up to your output rating.
russellv wrote:But so far the first one works well.
Good news!
russellv wrote:Also, I can verify that only MY2013 and newer works with V2H in US/EU markets.
That counts me out.
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