EVDRIVER wrote: AndyH wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote:Chinese chargers are junk and mostly low power and there is a reason they don't make high power chargers and inverters. What do you mean by "There are already chargers on the streets with CAN so that side of the puzzle is complete"? The only decent CAN ready after market chargers for EVs with reasonable power are the Brusa models and to get 12KW wi cost you over $8K, these are truly isolated chargers with FULL software and CAN control to say the least. The PFC-50 is $3,300 and is not isolated, no software control, not CAN BUS. There will be many Leaf owners that would desire a reliable and portable, high-power charger.
I type from personal experience. I own a charger that is isolated, well built, efficient, and has CAN as an option - and it's less expensive than anything I've found for sale in the US. If later I choose to charge thru the Level 3 port, and have enough detail on the needs of the car to build or spec an interface, I'll have no problem using a higher-output version of the unit I have.
Can you please list the maker of this charger and the specs, thanks. Canadian charger perhaps?
I am quite aware of the pros and cons of PFC chargers and others and plug in hybrid packs don't need high power chargers so the point is mute. Andy implies a CAN based high power charger exists as stated above and I have yet to see such a charger and it would be great if he would post the price, model, specs and where to purchase such a quality product. Andy, would you be kind enough to do so as I would like to order one for a project since I don't intend to purchase any more Brusa products and I would like to avoid making interfaces for my PFC-50 projects.
Something is telling me "the" charger mentioned is not high power and can't match the specs of a PFC-50 at 12kw @ $3300 or the very high price of actually over $17K for a 12kw Brusa with CAN and isolation. Sure, I can source a low-power isolated charger with CAN but what good is that since the point was quick charging all along?
Yes, there are decent electronics products from China but I have yet to see a quality EV charger with high power. Anyone, please correct me on this one. Also, chargers like the BRUSA are sophisticated products with control software and multiple layers of software profiles that suit charging more complex chemistries, these are not easy to copy:) The Brusa could likely exceed the charging needs of the Leaf system in ALL technical respects if you have a pile of cash to burn for four of them, not to mention they would be quite large stacked up. Like most OEM quality EV components worth having, they are extremely costly.