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Re: LEAF -vs- Versa

Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:44 am

The new 2012 Versa appears very similar to the 2011/2012 Leaf, both in looks and layout. I suspect that there is a fair amount of commonality.

yoyofella wrote:IIHS scored the 2011 Versa an "acceptable" rating on side impact with rating of "marginal" on driver injury, while the 2011 Leaf received the highest rating of "Good" on all measures.
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Re: LEAF -vs- Versa

Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:46 am

Does the Versa come with spray-on "carpet" as well or was that one of the many custom cost cutting features only available on the LEAF? :lol:

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Re: LEAF -vs- Versa

Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:50 am

It's an optional upgrade over the primered metal floor pan...

EVDRIVER wrote:Does the Versa come with spray-on "carpet" as well or was that one of the many custom cost cutting features only available on the LEAF? :lol:
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Re: LEAF -vs- Versa

Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:55 am

TomT wrote:The new 2012 Versa appears very similar to the 2011/2012 Leaf, both in looks and layout. I suspect that there is a fair amount of commonality.

This video has been posted before, but please pay attention to the rolling script starting at 2:50. All of the cars assembled in Oppama seem to be based on the same platform, and must have similar or identical mounting points and other elements.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saPWgjsRcAQ&t=170

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Re: LEAF -vs- Versa

Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:56 am

Why do people have the need to compare to Versa? I think Leaf is much closer to Lexus CT200 with its luxury features, performance and size then a budget Versa.


http://autos.msn.com/research/compare/e ... &v=t113043
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Re: LEAF -vs- Versa

Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:10 am

IBELEAF wrote:Why do people have the need to compare to Versa? I think Leaf is much closer to Lexus CT200 with its luxury features, performance and size then a budget Versa.


http://autos.msn.com/research/compare/e ... &v=t113043



The LEAF quality and function of the features is in no way comparable to a Lexus or even assembly quality of a Yaris, owned all three. The LEAF is an econo box with a slapped together NAV, lots of cheap materials, and poor quality construction with the appearance of a luxury car. I would bet the Versa is a better car even though the LEAF is mostly a modified ICE. The LEAF is not a luxury car and in no way a ground-up EV as Nissan would like to make people think. Total Nissan BS! There are so many modified ICE parts that no pure EV would have, they are there because they rushed it to market and anyone that has taken the car apart or knows EVs is aware of this. People should enjoy their LEAFs but let's stop glorifying it into something it is not. Nissan cut costs to compensate for the pack cost or they are just cheap. Likely both.

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Re: LEAF -vs- Versa

Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:33 am

+1 (Which is not to say that I don't love it, but let us not fool ourselves in to believing that it is something that it is not.)
EVDRIVER wrote:The LEAF quality and function of the features is in no way comparable to a Lexus or even assembly quality of a Yaris, owned all three. The LEAF is an econo box with a slapped together NAV, lots of cheap materials, and poor quality construction with the appearance of a luxury car. I would bet the Versa is a better car even though the LEAF is mostly a modified ICE. The LEAF is not a luxury car and in no way a ground-up EV as Nissan would like to make people think. Total Nissan BS! There are so many modified ICE parts that no pure EV would have, they are there because they rushed it to market and anyone that has taken the car apart or knows EVs is aware of this. People should enjoy their LEAFs but let's stop glorifying it into something it is not. Nissan cut costs to compensate for the pack cost or they are just cheap. Likely both.
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Re: LEAF -vs- Versa

Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:45 am

EVDRIVER wrote:...I would bet the Versa is a better car even though the LEAF is mostly a modified ICE...


EVDRIVER, your frequently cynical, negativity towards the Leaf is growing a little thin.
I am all for speaking your mind, and "telling it like it is", but I think you are starting to "cross the line" at times.

Anyways, I ended up in a rental Versa on a recent trip, so I had a chance to compare the driving experience. I would no way say the Versa is a better car (other than for driving long distances due to gas station convenience). The engine and transmission are somewhat rough, and make it a noisy abomination compared to the serene tranquility of a Leaf drive. The Leaf is no sports car, but it handles better than the Versa due to the lower center of gravity. The Leaf interior is not my usual "cup of tea", but I still found it more pleasant, modern, and user friendly than the Versa.

Clearly Nissan tried to keep costs down on the Leaf, but it does have a lot of things upgraded from a "bottom of the line" vehicle.

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Re: LEAF -vs- Versa

Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:50 am

Test drive a new 2012 Versa. It is a dramatically better vehicle than the 2011 and a much better direct comparison to the Leaf...

TEG wrote:Anyways, I ended up in a rental Versa on a recent trip, so I had a chance to compare the driving experience. I would no way say the Versa is a better car (other than for driving long distances due to gas station convenience).
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Re: LEAF -vs- Versa

Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:58 am

Personally, I am fine with Leaf's quality, it's not much different then a Sentra I previously owned. Yes there are some cost cutting measures done by Nissan, but nothing surprising and there is just too much exaggeration on this forum. I am also not comparing Leaf to an entire Lexus brand, but limiting to the car that I was considering prior to getting Leaf which happened to be Lexus CT200. I've driven CT200 on several occasions and it's really an entry level luxury hybrid car with better quality carpet, sunroof, leather with seat warmers and a few extra buttons at a few grand more then Leaf.


I had several major priorities for buying a new car:
+Hybrid or EV
+Minimum maintenance
+Decent performance
+Luxury features (HIDs, Nav...)
+Quiet
+Must like dashboard


Optional:
-Electric/Leather seats

Versa failed to meet any of my criteria where CT200 and Leaf met almost all...

Finally, it wasn't a priority, but it just happened to be the case... I've given a ride in Leaf to many friends and even strangers and they all came out impressed with what it had to offer for an electric car and CT200 would've been a cool hybrid to show off as well, try to impress anyone with a Versa...



TomT wrote:Test drive a new 2012 Versa. It is a dramatically better vehicle than the 2011 and a much better direct comparison to the Leaf...

How is it better or even direct comparison? Budget looking dashboard with small nav screen, same lacking performance and most importantly the gas economy of hatchback (34/28) is less what competitors have to offer, not to mention it's not a hybrid or electric... If I were to buy another econo ICE box I would much rather go for new Impreza with AWD that's rated 36/27.
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