WichitaKS
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lost one bar of charge capacity

Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:30 am

My 2012 Nissan leaf has reported to me this morning it has lost one bar, giving me only 11 bars. I was wondering if it was normal? The car is 21 months old, has 13,000 miles, is always charged only to 80% at night and rarely driven to the point of going below 40% charge, it has been charged to 100% only 8 times, and only 5 times did it go down to 2 bars in the red. In addition to this it is stored in a partially heated and air conditioned garage.

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Re: lost one bar of charge capacity

Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:13 am

That is pretty low mileage to see a bar go away. You might want to log it into the survey thread.
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Did the car sit on the dealer lot for a long time before your purchase ?
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WichitaKS
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Re: lost one bar of charge capacity

Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:17 am

KJD wrote:That is pretty low mileage to see a bar go away. You might want to log it into the survey thread.
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=16516

Did the car sit on the dealer lot for a long time before your purchase ?


Yes the car had some hail damage from a storm in May of the year I bought it (same storm took off my house roof) and then I bought it in December, so it sat on the dealers lot for 7 months. However, it only had 8 miles when I bought it.

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Re: lost one bar of charge capacity

Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:27 am

The situation that could be an issue for the battery capacity is if your car sat on the dealer lot for those 8 months with a 100% charge.

Unfortunately, you probably have no way of really knowing that...Hopefully you got a good deal on the car :)

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Re: lost one bar of charge capacity

Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:36 am

WichitaKS wrote:My 2012 Nissan leaf has reported to me this morning it has lost one bar, giving me only 11 bars. I was wondering if it was normal? The car is 21 months old, has 13,000 miles, is always charged only to 80% at night and rarely driven to the point of going below 40% charge, it has been charged to 100% only 8 times, and only 5 times did it go down to 2 bars in the red. In addition to this it is stored in a partially heated and air conditioned garage.


It probably sat at 100%.

My LEAF baked in the summer (we had an extremely hot summer in 2013- no garage storage), during the winter I charged to 100% every night, and I drive it like I stole it. I lost my first bar at 27 months, 31,000 miles.
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Re: lost one bar of charge capacity

Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:26 am

Randy wrote:The situation that could be an issue for the battery capacity is if your car sat on the dealer lot for those 8 months with a 100% charge.

Unfortunately, you probably have no way of really knowing that...Hopefully you got a good deal on the car :)


I think it was a good deal, only 85$ a month, plus the trade in of my old classic Sabb whos transmission died and at 198,000 miles I did not feel like putting in a new transmission to that Sabb.

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Re: lost one bar of charge capacity

Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:29 am

WichitaKS wrote:
Randy wrote:The situation that could be an issue for the battery capacity is if your car sat on the dealer lot for those 8 months with a 100% charge.

Unfortunately, you probably have no way of really knowing that...Hopefully you got a good deal on the car :)


I think it was a good deal, only 85$ a month, plus the trade in of my old classic Sabb whos transmission died and at 198,000 miles I did not feel like putting in a new transmission to that Sabb.


I meant a 3 year and 3 month lease at 85$ a month.

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Re: lost one bar of charge capacity

Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:46 am

kubel wrote:
WichitaKS wrote:My 2012 Nissan leaf has reported to me this morning it has lost one bar, giving me only 11 bars. I was wondering if it was normal? The car is 21 months old, has 13,000 miles, is always charged only to 80% at night and rarely driven to the point of going below 40% charge, it has been charged to 100% only 8 times, and only 5 times did it go down to 2 bars in the red. In addition to this it is stored in a partially heated and air conditioned garage.


It probably sat at 100%.

My LEAF baked in the summer (we had an extremely hot summer in 2013- no garage storage), during the winter I charged to 100% every night, and I drive it like I stole it. I lost my first bar at 27 months, 31,000 miles.


The summer that was only a few months before I bought the Leaf was 45 days about 100 F and never below 85, plus 18 of those days were above 110 F, the host summer on record in Wichita. Clearly my car was on the lot during that summer.

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Re: lost one bar of charge capacity

Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:59 am

kubel wrote:
WichitaKS wrote:My 2012 Nissan leaf has reported to me this morning it has lost one bar, giving me only 11 bars. I was wondering if it was normal? The car is 21 months old, has 13,000 miles, is always charged only to 80% at night and rarely driven to the point of going below 40% charge, it has been charged to 100% only 8 times, and only 5 times did it go down to 2 bars in the red. In addition to this it is stored in a partially heated and air conditioned garage.


It probably sat at 100%.

My LEAF baked in the summer (we had an extremely hot summer in 2013- no garage storage), during the winter I charged to 100% every night, and I drive it like I stole it. I lost my first bar at 27 months, 31,000 miles.


It looks like it is not a question of miles driven but age of the battery, out cars have similar numbers and the battery is probably the same age, and they both lost a bar about the same time.

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Re: lost one bar of charge capacity

Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:47 pm

Even if you keep the battery in a low state of charge (e.g., 20-40%) most of the time, your battery will still degrade. I've been babying mine like that and still lost my first bar before 20,000 mi. I may have slowed it down a bit, but it's mostly temps, hard driving, and time. Miles driven will also affect the capacity, because of battery cycling, but it is hard to remove that variable without comparing two cars side-by-side. Enjoy the car and if you are leasing, then yes, you got a good deal. If you bought, then well, just drive as many miles as you can as quickly as you can.
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