TimLee
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Delivery Date: 17 May 2011
Leaf Number: 2026
Location: Chattanooga, TN

Re: How long 'til 4th bar drops?

Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:55 pm

Silverbullets wrote:Also... if summer is very hot and my soh says I should have lost 4 bars but the computer hasn't dropped it then I'm hosed right?

Unless Nissan allows a good will ouside of warranty either partial or total replacement.

I dropped the fourth bar two weeks late and Nissan did 100% replacement.

But no clear formula on when and why Nissan does or does not do good will.

Tim Lee
Chattanooga, TN

Man. Date: 03/10/11, VIN # 2026
Delivered 05-17-2011
Blue Ocean, 2011 SL-eTec

Gorge
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Delivery Date: 01 Jun 2016
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Re: How long 'til 4th bar drops?

Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:47 pm

setof4 wrote:Just wondering why my LEAF's 10th bar still has not dropped yet. Here are the stats:

2013 S
mfg: 02/2013
12th bar loss: 8/6/2105 31476 mi. 53.94 Ahr 82% SOH
11th bar loss: 5/28/2016 43332 mi. 49.19 Ahr 75% SOH

recent readings:
10/15/2016 48075 mi. 45.75 Ahr 69% SOH
10/22/2016 48307 mi. 45.35 Ahr 69% SOH
11/5/2016 48527 mi. 45.67 Ahr 69% SOH
11/12/2016 48814 mi. 44.96 Ahr 68% SOH

Planning ahead, is there a good chance for the 9th bar to drop before March 2018?
I know I should start managing my miles carefully. Any other suggestions? Thanks.


Keep the car in the garage, run the heater, drain to LBW, and charge it back up. Repeat.

The oddities of these Leafs make no sense. I'm at 45.225 ahr and still at 72% SOH. Been stuck at 72 ever since I started tracking with LSP at 47.868 ahr. I've lost 2.6 ahr and haven't lost a single SOH %.

Swamibob
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Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:15 pm
Delivery Date: 19 May 2013
Leaf Number: 404033
Location: Florida

Re: How long 'til 4th bar drops?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:23 am

tungsten wrote:@714JPP

Sounds like a good find! How many miles does it have? Also, just make sure you are calculating the 5 year warranty from the car's in-service date. As long as you have sufficient mileage, 16 months should be a fairly safe bet to get to the 41-42 AHr range, IMHO.

You might also want to see if the seller will let you get an official battery report from a Nissan dealership, as if the battery was abused (for example, left discharged for a prolonged period of time), it could void the warranty.

Good luck!


Now that you have the new battery installed I have a couple of questions. Do you give you a brand new battery pack or is it a refurb? How many miles does yours show fully charged at 100% and what is the AHr?

I ask these questions as I have one mfg on 02/13 and the battery is at AHr=43.71 so i expect to lose the 9th bar soon. How hard was it to get Nissan to start the warranty procedure?

Thanks,
Rob

Swamibob
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Re: How long 'til 4th bar drops?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:31 am

Gorge wrote:
setof4 wrote:Just wondering why my LEAF's 10th bar still has not dropped yet. Here are the stats:

2013 S
mfg: 02/2013
12th bar loss: 8/6/2105 31476 mi. 53.94 Ahr 82% SOH
11th bar loss: 5/28/2016 43332 mi. 49.19 Ahr 75% SOH

recent readings:
10/15/2016 48075 mi. 45.75 Ahr 69% SOH
10/22/2016 48307 mi. 45.35 Ahr 69% SOH
11/5/2016 48527 mi. 45.67 Ahr 69% SOH
11/12/2016 48814 mi. 44.96 Ahr 68% SOH

Planning ahead, is there a good chance for the 9th bar to drop before March 2018?
I know I should start managing my miles carefully. Any other suggestions? Thanks.


Keep the car in the garage, run the heater, drain to LBW, and charge it back up. Repeat.

The oddities of these Leafs make no sense. I'm at 45.225 ahr and still at 72% SOH. Been stuck at 72 ever since I started tracking with LSP at 47.868 ahr. I've lost 2.6 ahr and haven't lost a single SOH %.


Are you saying run the heater in the car to discharge the battery more quickly, or heat up the garage? If it was real close to warranty levels I wouldn't drive it anymore and try to charge and discharge the battery without putting miles on it as well.

Gorge
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Re: How long 'til 4th bar drops?

Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:53 pm

Heat up the garage

TimLee
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Re: How long 'til 4th bar drops?

Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:29 pm

Swamibob wrote:Now that you have the new battery installed I have a couple of questions. Do you give you a brand new battery pack or is it a refurb? How many miles does yours show fully charged at 100% and what is the AHr?

I ask these questions as I have one mfg on 02/13 and the battery is at AHr=43.71 so i expect to lose the 9th bar soon. How hard was it to get Nissan to start the warranty procedure?

Thanks,
Rob

All replacements have been brand new batteries.

66.14 AHr
Miles varies based on driving. But with new battery the Distance to Empty (aka Guessometer) typically showed between 95 and 110 for my moderate driving. Realistic range from100% to Low Battery warning was more like 65 to 80 in warm weather. Around 50 in cold weather running heater.

Once you have lost four bars dealer will do some tests and lots of paperwork. About two hours.

Depending on production cycle 2 to 6 weeks to get battery.
About four to six hours to swap out and do software.

Tim Lee
Chattanooga, TN

Man. Date: 03/10/11, VIN # 2026
Delivered 05-17-2011
Blue Ocean, 2011 SL-eTec

snguyen4
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Joined: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:39 pm
Delivery Date: 23 Nov 2012
Leaf Number: 123456
Location: Garden Grove CA

Re: How long 'til 4th bar drops?

Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:06 pm

Can anyone explain this to me. My stats are going up. They are a lot higher than what I started with when I started using LeafSpyPro.
I have a 2012 and the warranty is good until 11/23/17. I've been trying very hard but it looks like I'm making it better and not worst.
Also what temp should I try to bring the battery up to everyday and how long should I try to keep there?
I've been able to get it in to the 100F almost every day and to 133.3F three times already. What am I doing wrong? Why is my AHr up 1.3 instead of going down? :shock: Thank you for your imput.

12/12/16
AHr=46.29
SOH=70%
Hx=49.81%
33,639 Miles
119 QCs & 983 L1/L2

1/12/17
AHr=45.67
SOH=69%
Hx=48.79%
34,187 Miles
137 QCs & 1104 L1/L2

2/1/17
AHr=46.70
SOH=71%
Hx=50.49%
34,962 Miles
172 QCs & 1156 L1/L2

2/7/17
AHr=46.94
SOH=71%
Hx=50.86%
35,331 Miles
186 QCs & 1162 L1/L2

2/14/17
AHr=46.97%
SOH=71%
Hz=50.93%
35,639 Miles
198 QCs & 1198 L1/L2

snguyen4
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Leaf Number: 123456
Location: Garden Grove CA

Re: The Battery Replacement Thread

Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:09 pm

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Valdemar
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Location: Oak Park, CA

Re: The Battery Replacement Thread

Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:35 pm

Don't sweat it, keep doing what you're doing. 2 months isn't that big of an interval to draw any conclusions. Try to back off from QCing and see if the numbers go down if this will give you some peace of mind.
'11 SL, totaled
-1CB@33k/21mo, -2CB@53k/33mo, -3CB@68k/41mo, -4CB(41.5AHr)@79k/49mo, -5CB(38.85AHr)@87.5k/54mo
-0CB(66.14AHr)@87.5k/54mo (BBB)
60.5AHr, SOH 94%, 105k miles
9kW Solar

Evoforce
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Re: How long 'til 4th bar drops?

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:50 pm

Also keep in mind that I have been involved in 3 vehicles now that haven't dropped until they were 41.xx Ah
2011 Leaf 1 bought 2/28/15 @ 28,000ish mi. 10 bar (8 bars @ 11/25/15 @ 37,453 ) (New lizard @ 39,275 mi. on 1/20/2016) Now 52,166 mi.

2011 Leaf 2 bought 4/28/15 @ 24,000ish mi. 12 bar (new lizard Dec. 2014 @ 22,273 miles) Now 35,485 mi.

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